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From my understanding in the simulation model you can disable burst mode by doing this procedure for UCC256403:
1. Set RBW to 2.7 kΩ.
2. Set BMTL and BMTH to 0.2.
I don't want under any circumstances to have the controller in burst mode due to voltage ripple.
In most scenarios the UCC256403 will not be in burst mode. The UCC256403 shall have an input voltage range from 60 V to 30 V, and Lr, Cr and Lm is tuned in to an nominal input voltage range of 58 V (Pout = 15 W).
The reason for tuning the input voltage range to 58 V is obvious, because in most scenarios the input voltage will be in that region. In some extraordinary settings the input voltage might be 30 V.
However, the load will also sometimes vary. During normal operation the load is approximately 2 Ω, but in other scenarios the load is up to 8 Ω.
When the input voltage is approximately 58-60 V, and the load is 8 Ω the controller is in burst mode. It does make sense that the controller would be in burst mode IF you did not disable burst mode. Because you have a light load, but it should not happen when you disable burst mode.
I've read some forum posts and also read the datasheet, and it seems like the simulation model do in fact sometimes go in burst mode even if it's disabled (BMTH and BMTL = 0.2).
And according to the datasheet, this happens in a scenario where VFB replica voltage is below 0.2 V. In the simulation model the VFB should not be 0.2 V.
VFBreplica = RFB * (IFB - I_optocoupler_current)
IFB current should be approximately 164 uA according to the datasheet, and the optocoupler current is approximately 154 uA (with some ripple) during the burst mode scenario. RFB = 100 kΩ
VFBreplica = 1 V in this scenario.
One thing I have noticed is that if I add a lot of capacitance in the output filter (more than should be needed), the controller is not in burst mode anymore. Obviously, the compensation network is affected by the output voltage ripple,
but I've tried to filter out the ripple in the compensation network, but for some weird reason the ripple is still embedded in the compensation network (and still in burst mode).
This gives me a suspicion that is not the compensation network, VFB_replica or the output voltage ripple that causes the controller to be in burst mode.
Attachment: The excel file with the parameters.
Note:
It doesn't seem like it's possible to upload the simulation file in the forum. So I might send the simulation to someone in the TI Staff support?
Copy of RCT_UCC25640x Design Calculator Rev4 (version 1)_58VDC_nominal_voltage.xlsx
Hi UCC,
Your query is under review.
I will get back to you by 12/24.
Regards
Hemanth
Hi UCC,
Please state what is the problem statement and what is the support you are expecting from TI ?
Please reach out to your FAE to share the required simulation files.
Regards
Hemanth
"Please state what is the problem statement and what is the support you are expecting from TI ?"
I can almost not make myself any more clearer. I want to know what triggers the UCC256403 to burst mode, when it's disabled the simulation model. And if there's any workaround. I want under no circumstances the controller to be in burst-mode.
"Please reach out to your FAE to share the required simulation files."
I need your e-mail address to share the file either by mail or through sharefile.
UCC,
Please note that, if the device does not enter burst mode and continue to switch, the frequency increases and the output voltage may go out of regulation at no-load due to practical parasitic.
Try connecting BW pin to GND for simulation.
Regards
Hemanth
Try connecting BW pin to GND for simulation.
Do you mean removing the BW resistor, and connecting the BW pin directly to ground? The controller is still in burst-mode.
UCC,
I entered RBW value to be 0kohm and 1uA as initial current in the default circuit downloaded from web. I don't see burst mode until the load is applied, when the load is applied, continuous switching is observed. However, once the load is removed, the device stops switching as output overshoot.
Can you share the application specifications and business case?
For actual performance of the controller, I recommend you to evaluate the EVM (UCC25640EVM-020 Evaluation board | TI.com).
Regards
Hemanth
I entered RBW value to be 0kohm and 1uA as initial current in the default circuit downloaded from web. I don't see burst mode until the load is applied, when the load is applied, continuous switching is observed. However, once the load is removed, the device stops switching as output overshoot.
That's good work. But my original question was why burst-mode was observed in the simulation model we have. In the first post I wanted to know what other things other than the IFB_current replica can trigger burst-mode. Output voltage ripple was one suspect.
Can you share the application specifications and business case?
The application should work from 3 W (hibernation mode) to 16.5 W (normal peak mode). The reason for using a LLC converter is due to strict EMC requirements and isolation. It is in the region between 3 to 5 W the burst-mode triggers. No problems at higher power.
The input voltage should be between 30 to 60 VDC, and and output voltage of 5 VDC. The design has been optimized using the excel sheet for a nominal input voltage of 58 VDC, and an output power of 15 W.
For actual performance of the controller, I recommend you to evaluate the EVM (UCC25640EVM-020 Evaluation board | TI.com).
I've considered using the development kit, but I am not sure if there's any real use experimenting with the development kit when it's designed for 180 W, and it has an AC input voltage. Also, we are not going to use auxiliary windings.
Would it be possible to send our simulation model to you? Otherwise I don't think we will make any progress.
UCC,
We need to get field team involved. Can you please reach out to field and share the simulation file and your query. I will work through them.
Regards
Hemanth