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BQ78350: BQ78350 RSOC DROP issue

Part Number: BQ78350
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQSTUDIO, GPCCEDV, GPCCHEM

Hi Sir

My customer use BQ78350-R1, the CEDV parameters have calculated but the RC drop during learning.

Attached the gg file and log file.

Waiting for your reply.

Thanks

StarBQ78350 (1).zip

  • Hi Star,

    The Voltage in the log file is showing as 1320mV. The Design Voltage in the gg file is set to 3200mV. Something seems strange.

    Have you gone through the steps to calibrate the device and ensure that the AFE Cell Map is configured correctly? Have you imported the correct ChemID for the battery? Are you using the EVM or a system board? Can you give me details on the battery - voltage, number of series cells, capacity?

    Also, can you select all of the registers in BQStudio to collect the log file? This will give us more information to help you debug.

    Best regards,
    Matt
  • Hi Star,

    Do you have any additional data you can share? Please let me know. I will close the thread for now and it will automatically reopen if you respond.

    Best regards,
    Matt
  • Hi Matt

    Thanks for your response.

    The customer use LiFePo4 100Ah,

    Wed Mar 27 11:21:59 CST 2019
    
    Device Name = bq78350_R1
    Firmware Version = V1_03_BLD0022
    
    Design Capacity = 15800
    Design Voltage = 3600
    Specification Info = 0x0111
    Manufacturer Date = 2019-1-19
    Serial Number = 0x0001
    Manufacturer Name = JOULEPEAK
    Device Name = TBMS12
    Device Chemistry = LION
    
    Sample,DateTime,ElapsedTime,ManufAccess,RemCapAlarm,RemTimeAlarm,BattMode,@Rate(@),@TimeFull,@TimeEmpty,@RateOK,Temperature,Voltage,Current,AvgCurr,MaxErr,RSOC,ASOC,RemCap,FullChgCap,RunTimeEmty,RunTimeEmty,AvgTimeFull,ChgCurr,ChgVolt,BattStat,CycleCnt,PendingEdv,SoH,OpStatA,OpStatB,TempRange,ChgStat,GaugeStat,MfgStat,SafetyAlertAB,SafetyStatAB,SafetyAlertCD,SafetyStatCD,PFAlertAB,PFStatAB,PFStatAB,CellVolt1,CellVolt2,CellVolt3,CellVolt4,CellVolt5,CellVolt6,CellVolt7,CellVolt8,CellVolt9,CellVolt10,CellVolt11,CellVolt12,CellVolt13,CellVolt14,CellVolt15,ExtAvgCellVolt,TS1 Temp,TS2 Temp,TS3 Temp,CellTemp,FetTemp,GaugeInternalTemp,LogRowTime(ms),LogStatus
    1,2019-03-27 11:22:01,2.001,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3341,3323,3336,3330,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,934,SUCCESS
    2,2019-03-27 11:22:03,4.001,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3341,3323,3336,3330,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,930,SUCCESS
    3,2019-03-27 11:22:05,6.000,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3341,3323,3336,3329,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.0,928,SUCCESS
    4,2019-03-27 11:22:07,8.000,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3341,3323,3336,3329,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,940,SUCCESS
    5,2019-03-27 11:22:09,10.000,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3340,3323,3336,3329,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,938,SUCCESS
    6,2019-03-27 11:22:11,12.000,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3340,3322,3336,3329,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,935,SUCCESS
    7,2019-03-27 11:22:13,14.000,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3340,3323,3336,3329,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,932,SUCCESS
    8,2019-03-27 11:22:15,16.001,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3341,3323,3336,3330,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,927,SUCCESS
    9,2019-03-27 11:22:17,18.001,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3340,3323,3336,3330,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,939,SUCCESS
    10,2019-03-27 11:22:19,20.001,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3340,3322,3336,3330,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,936,SUCCESS
    11,2019-03-27 11:22:21,22.001,0x032B,300,10,0x6001,0,65535,65535,1,5.4,1333,0,0,100,6,5,763,14800,65535,65535,65535,10,1360,0x08D0,1,0,94,0x2B03,0x0000,0x02,0x01,0x44,0x0110,0x0000,0x0001,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,0x0000,3340,3323,3336,3330,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,5.4,-273.2,-273.2,5.4,-273.2,35.1,933,SUCCESS
    

    The customer set voltage unit 10mV, and want to scale the FCC to 100Ah.

    Hope your response.

    thanks

    Star 

  • Hi Star,

    Ok, I understand. To do current scaling, they need to use the firmware for BQ78350-R2 - it can be downloaded here: www.ti.com/.../BQ78350-R2-DEVICE-FW

    The initial Remaining Capacity and SOC at power up (or with Reset) are determined from the ChemID. If they have selected a matching ChemID for their battery, it will help with SOC accuracy at power-up. Next they need to collect logs for the GPCCEDV tool. If they already did this and they are not seeing accurate results, maybe they can send the output from this tool for me to review. The Design Capacity and the Design Voltage need to be set correctly as well. The full procedure is in this document: www.ti.com/.../slua924

    When they collect the logs for the GPCCEDV tool, it is good to go a little below their desired system cutoff voltage (~100mV), so they may need to widen the protection settings temporarily for the logging process so that the FETs do not open. I noticed there is a CUV fault showing in the picture you attached.

    Best regards,
    Matt
  • Hi Matt

    Thanks for your help.

    Another question, recently many customers feedback GPCCEDV tool and GPCCHEM tool upload file successfuly, but did not receive the report email.

    Please help resove this problem. 

    Thanks

    Star

     

  • Hi Star,

    I will send a message to the team that manages these tools and will contact you privately Monday morning if I find anything out. However, sometimes the email might be blocked by a spam filter. Some users fix the problem by trying a different email address if the email server for their company is filtering the email with the report.

    Regards,
    Matt
  • Hi Matt
    Thanks for your help.
    This problem still not resolve, many customers complain this issue.
    The customer reupload the successful data which had received the report but no reply.
    Waiting for your reply
    Thanks
    Star
  • Hi Star,

    It turns out there was an issue with the server that is now fixed. It will take some time for the system to work through all of the submitted files, so users should see a response within the next few hours.

    Best regards,
    Matt