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LM5170EVM-BIDIR: boost only operation

Part Number: LM5170EVM-BIDIR
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM5170

I am trying to use the LM5170EVM in boost mode only with Vin = about 15 V and Vout = the default value in the EVM (about 50 V)

I shorted the breaker FET drains with a wire while the circuit was powered up to remove them from operation.

The outer voltage loop does not appear to be controlling the output voltage now; the output voltage is over 60 V and the circuit is hiccupping (I presume because OVP is being triggered).

I have a 3 A supply powering the converter and it is indicating OCP during the hiccup events.

Please suggest what I have probably damaged on the EVM to cause this behavior that the HV output is not regulating at about 50 V.

The EVM now powers up into the hiccup mode without the need to short together the drains of the FETs.

Should it be OK to not remove the breaker FETs but to just short the drains together.

In a closed thread "LM5170EVM-BIDIR: BOOST doesn't work but nFAULT is HIGH" Youhao Xi advised to do the following to operate in boost mode only.

  • Remove the four breaker FETs (Q5, Q6, Q8, Q9)
    • The gate drive signal will not be present without the HV output voltage present at start-up
  • Solder a short across the drain pads of the removed FETs
    • Connects the LV input to the boost circuit
  • Short J3 (SYNCR)
    • Disable FET checking at start-up since breaker FETs are replace with a short
  • Short J35 (V12)
    • To provide an input signal for the outer voltage loop
    • QUESTION: should this be short J34 (V48) and open J35 (V12)

I made the following jumper changes to the Table 2 (page 7 of EVM User Guide)

  1. J21: 1-2 shorted, 2-3 open; 12 V is present on EVM, 48 V is not
  2. J28: 2-3 shorted, 1-2 open; set direction for boost mode
  3. J30: 2-3 shorted; did not want CH2 running on first power-up

I made the following jumper changes to the Table 3 (page 8 of EVM User Guide)

  1. J3: shorted; disable FET fault detection at start-up, breaker FETs do not need to be checked
  2. J4: shorted; use the on-board DC/DC as the Vcc supply
  3. J6: shorted; as specified in the table, but this DISABLES the ISETD function (the table says it enables the function)
  4. J34: shorted; intention is to enable 48 V input to outer voltage control loop, see comment above regarding recommendation from Youhao Xi 
  5. J35: open; intention is to disable 12V input to outer voltage control loop, see comment above regarding recommendation from Youhao Xi
  6. J36: shorted; to use analog outer voltage control loop
  7. J37: shorted; provides power for analog outer control loop circuits

Rather than removing the breaker FETS, I left them on the PCB and shorted the drains together with a wire after the circuit had been powered up (did not follow directions from Youhao Xi )

My board powers up but it appears the outer voltage loop is not working because the HV voltage is over 60 V and it appears the circuit OVP is kicking in and causing the circuit to hiccup with the drain shorting wire not present, even after cycling the input power.

  • Hi Bruce,

    Thank you for using the LM5170.  You need to have both J34 and J35 shorted even that you just operating the circuit in the boost mode.  If you don't want to short J35, you should also remove D9. 

    You do not need to physically remove the breaker FETs.  There are to exposed pads on the back side next to D3.  You can solder a copper strip to short these to pads.

    For your convenience, I attached a jumper setting diagram for boost operation. 

    LM5170EVM Jumper Setting for Boost.pdf

    Best Regards,

    Youhao Xi, Applications Engineering

  • Youhao Xi -

    Thanks for the quick response, the LM5170EVM is now working well for me.

    Please let me know if you have a similar jumper configuration diagram or chart for connecting two LM5170EVM board in a 4-phase configuration.

    I am aware of the documentation in the LM5170 data sheet and am looking for any other information to help prevent me from misunderstandings or stupid mistakes again.

    - Bruce

  • Hi Bruce,

    Glad to hear that your circuit is working now,  For 4 phase configuration, please refer to the attached file. You need to make a 60pin ribbon cable for easy connection between the two EVMs. Also note the following:

    1. Just like you did, the circuit breaker should be shorted on both EVMs.

    2. You just need to enable the bias supplies on one board, the cable will send +10V, 5V and 3,3V to the 2nd board.

    3. You just need to use the voltage loop control on one board.

    4. Change the DIR jumper position to set the circuit to run buck or boost. 

    LM5170EVM Jumper Settings for 4-phase.pdf

    Thanks,

    Youhao

  • Youhao -

    Thanks for the quick and detailed response.

    - Bruce