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Difference between C6-Integra and OMAP forums?

Anonymous
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Other Parts Discussed in Thread: OMAP-L138

Hi,

 

I would like to ask a question on OMAP processor classification.

 

Under ARM® & DSP Microprocessors, there are both C6-Integra DSP+ARM Processors and OMAPTM Processors, however OMAP L138 C6-Integra DSP+ARM Processor - OMAP-L1x Processor - OMAP-L138 is both

1.    A C6-Integra DSP+ARM processor according to the webpage above.

2.    An OMAP processor according to its name.

 

I have three questions:

1.    Which forum should OMAP L138 questions be asked in?

2.    What is the difference between the two forums above?

3.    What is the difference between 1) A C6-Integra DSP+ARM processor and 2) OMAP processor? Do they overlap and/or have intersection?

 

 

Zheng

 

 

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    Guru 15580 points

    Same questions for me. Funny how two very experienced designers have basic questions about the TI product definitions. Hello marketing....??

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    TI__Prodigy 405 points

    Zheng and MikeH,

    Thank you for asking some very good questions.

    In marketing, our attempt is to always help the consumers quickly recognize and choose the best products. Unfortunately, while we do this, we often shift directions to better align with consumer feedback. This causes confusion in the short-term, but we are confident will help clarify our product offering in the long term.

    OMAP processors are targeted in the handset space and have attributes (SIM card, POP memory) for that particular application space. When we introduced the OMAP-L138, it was not targeted for the handset space, but we kept the name as it shared a common ancestry as the handset processors.

    However, the OMAP-L138, with its industrial-focused peripherals (Ethernet, DDR2/DDR3, CAN, etc), was targeted more broadly for industrial applications, and not for handsets. As we saw the part get more and more popular, we found the need to distinguish the OMAP processors tuned for handset operations, and the more general purpose C6-Integra DSP + ARM processors. The OMAP-L138 is considered the first processor in the C6-Integra DSP+ARM product line, but we did not go back to change its name as we thought it would be even more confusing (I know).

    To answer your questions then:

    (1) The OMAP-L138 questions should be in the OMAP forum. This is because we could not move all the great, older OMAP-L138 posts to a new forum while making it searchable.

    (2) There is little difference between the two forums, but we suggest customers put OMAP-L138 questions in the OMAP forum and new DSP+ARM device questions in the other forum.

    (3) Answered above. OMAP processors are tuned for the handset space. DSP+ARM processors are more widely available, and have more general purpose peripherals, and are more targeted for the industrial and test and measurement application spaces.

    I realize this is confusing, but bear with us. We're in the process of getting the story right. From confusion comes clarity - at least that's what we marketing people believe :).

    Huy Pham
    C6000 Manager  

  • Anonymous
    0 Anonymous in reply to Huy Pham

    Dear Huy,

     

    I have to say sorry for my late reply.

     

    OMAP processors are targeted in the handset space and have attributes (SIM card, POP memory) for that particular application space. When we introduced the OMAP-L138, it was not targeted for the handset space, but we kept the name as it shared a common ancestry as the handset processors.

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omap

     

    OMAP L-1x

    The OMAP L-1x parts are marketed only through catalog channels, and have a different technological heritage than the other OMAP parts. Rather than deriving directly from cell phone product lines, they grew from the video-oriented DaVinci product line by removing the video-specific features while using upgraded DaVinci peripherals. A notable feature is use of afloating point DSP, instead of the more customary fixed point one.

     

     

     

    (1) The OMAP-L138 questions should be in the OMAP forum. This is because before we could not move all the great, older OMAP-L138 posts to a new forum.

     

     

    Can I interpret your meaning as "Because of its technique descendancy from DaVinci products and its rich set of industrial peripherals (etc.), OMAP L138 should be more appropriately considered to belong to a different product family, which TI later expanded after the success of OMAP L138 and named "C6 Integra DSP + ARM". OMAP L138 is the first product that initialized the expansion.

     

    Therefore, OMAP L138 technically should belong to "C6 Integra DSP + ARM" family, and its questions should be posted in the corresponding forum. The only reason that you suggest posting questions to OMAP forum is due to the multitude of old threads about OMAP L138 that has already been posted in the original OMAP forum.

     

    I think I got what you said. Thanks very much for your answer.

     

     

     

    Zheng

     

     

     

     

  • Anonymous
    0 Anonymous in reply to Huy Pham

    Huy,

     

    From SpectrumDigital EVMAM1808 I didn't see PoP memory, nor did I find PoP memory in any OMAP L138 documents. So is this not supported because OMAP L138 is not intended for handset use?

     

     

    Zheng

     

     

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    TI__Prodigy 405 points

    That's correct Zheng.

    Thanks!

  • Anonymous
    0 Anonymous in reply to Huy Pham

    Huy,

    Comparing with OMAP forums, I found that there seems to be much less activity (answered posts from TI employee) in Sitara ARM forum. Is it temporarily or have been for some time?

     

    Zheng