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AM625-Q1: Could you tell me the PLL clock frequency variation for CAN in SoC.

Part Number: AM625-Q1

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Hi Experts.

Could you tell me the PLL clock frequency variation for CAN in SoC.

Because the check list for shematichs review mentioned as below.

4)List CAN clock source tolerances (For crystals and resonators record manufacturing, temperature and aging tolerances. For PLL's, additionally record max drift over a 2 bit time period.  Tolerance must meet 2Mb CANFD clock requirement of +/-0.3% to be FD compatible even if the module is only used on an MSCAN network.

Best regards,

Ito

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  • Hi Ito,

    I cannot find PLL drift to be characterized in the datasheet. I think that if MCU0_PLL was selected during chip design, then it should cover the CAN specific requirements.

    I think all the requirements in 4) are related to external components like system clock crystal / external system clock source, or external MCAN clock source like below:

    Regards,

    Stan

  • Ito,

    Can please you point me the document with requirements 4) ?

    Thanks

  • Hello Ito,

    Refer below the available measurement data:

    Could you please provide the clock tolerance specification for the MAIN_PLL0_HSDIV4_CLKOUT PLL that clocks the MCAN0 peripheral.
    We have reviewed the AM62x TRM and Clock Tree but haven't found this information.

    We determined the 6-sigma frequency error of the PLL output (80 MHz) that is sourcing the MCAN controller by measuring N-cycle jitter over a period of forty 80MHz clock cycles, which represents one bit time when operating at 2Mbps. The frequency error was calculated by applying the worst-case N-cycle jitter to the nominal period of forty clock cycles, or one bit time. The maximum frequency error of a single bit across the entire process, voltage, and temperature operating range (-40 to 125 junction) was 0.022%.

    We also measured the frequency error over a period that represents 10 bits at 2Mbps, which is the resynchronization period for MCAN. The maximum frequency error of the resynchronization period across the entire process, voltage, and temperature range (-40 to 125 junction) was 0.003%.

    Apologies for reopening this ticket. Could you please also verify the following? We need measurements for both 5 Mbps and 500 kbps data rates, as our project configuration is 5 Mbps FD CAN.
    I will need to check with the team that collected the data.

    We determined the 6-sigma frequency error of the PLL output (80 MHz) that is sourcing the MCAN controller by measuring N-cycle jitter over a period of ten 80MHz clock cycles, which represents one bit time when operating at 8Mbps. The frequency error was calculated by applying the worst-case N-cycle jitter to the nominal period of forty clock cycles, or one bit time. The maximum frequency error of a single bit across the entire process, voltage, and temperature operating range (-40 to 125 junction) was 0.064%.
    We also measured the frequency error over a period that represents 10 bits at 8Mbps, which is the resynchronization period for MCAN. The maximum frequency error of the resynchronization period across the entire process, voltage, and temperature range (-40 to 125 junction) was 0.010%.
    We did not measure jitter for the operating condition that represents 5Mbps, but the result would be somewhere between the 8Mbps and 2Mbps values.

    Note: We do not have any plans to measure jitter for any other operating conditions.  We did not collect data for a duration that represents two-bit periods because the error associated with a single bit represents the worst-case error for the peripheral.  The error associated to two bits would be between the single bit error and the 10-bit error.

    Regards,

    Sreenivasa

  • Hi Sreenivasa,

    >Can please you point me the document with requirements 4) ?

    This is request from OEM and this is checklist for CAN. So customer can't share this infomation with TI.

    Best regards,

    Ito

  • Hello Ito,

    Noted and thank you.

    Regards,

    Sreenivasa