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Need IBIS Module for TMS320DM814x

Hi,

Please, do provide me  IBIS module for TMS320DM814x, Digital media processor. My email ID is shashi@mando.com

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Warm Regards

Shashi

Shashi@mando.com

  • Dear All,

    please provide me IBIS model for TMS320DM814x Davinci digital media processor.

     

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    Shashi

  • Hi Shashi,

    It is attached.

    BR,

    Viet

    Centaurus20.zip
  • Viet Dinh said:

    Hi Shashi,

    It is attached.

    BR,

    Viet

     

    Hi Viet

    Thanks a lot  :-)

     

    Best regards

    Shashi

     

  • Hi Viet,

    I am trying to assign this model for signal integrity, but it fails and shows errors . I'm attaching the error file. I'm using cadence allegro tool.

    Unable to import file ..\..\MOSS20 IBIS MODEL\centaurus20.ibs due to the following translation errors:
    
    
    SKIPPING IBISCHK
    
    READING IBIS FILE ..\..\MOSS20 IBIS MODEL\centaurus20.ibs
    
    INFO @line 43 --- Completed PackagedDevice centaurus20
    ERROR @line 649: Quoted string not terminated: <
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    SKIPPING DMLCHECK
    
    Translation failed due to IBIS2DML errors.
    Output saved as D:\1. ANALYSIS\11 SI ANALYSIS\MOSS-20\MOSS20_boardfile\20120104\centaurus20.dml.txt.
    Run ibis2signoise -d, a DML will be generated. 
    Examine it with line numbers from the log message. 
    

     

     

    Best Regards

    Shashi

  • Shashi,

    This looks like a tool issue and not a model issue.

    The log file mentions an error at line 649, but I think this is refering to a toll generated file and not the source IBIS model.

    I suggest you contact your tool vendor and ask them to try loading the IBIS model.

    BR,

    Steve

  • Thanks Steve,

    I checked with other different IBIS Models of my previous designs. They were working fine. One thing I noted that all are of version 3.2. I think the simulation tool what I'm using is not supporting higher IBIS ersions.

    Can you please, upload this IBIS model in version 3.2

     

    Best Regards

    Shashi

  • IBIS version 4 is all I am able to supply, sorry. Version 3.2 is very very old.

    Please contact your tool vendor for help with the tool. If they have any advice on what the real cause of the issue is we may be able to work around it, but if it is something embedded in the model details then there may not be much we can do.

    BR,

    Steve

  • Hi Steve,

    I checked this model with Allegro 16.5. It had error and same problem  I found in assigning. I checked with the tool vendor. they have translated this ibis model to .dml. Now it's ok for assignment.

    In this IBIS model there are 643 models dedicated to different voltage levels. In my circuit, I'm analysing DDR3 signals connected with TMS320DM814x. Voltage uses is 1.5 V.

    Which model shall i choose ? Please help.

     

    Best regards

    Shashi

  • Shashi.

    Your tool should only allow you to select sub models which are pertinent to the specific IO ball you are interested in, so the list should be significantly less than 643.

    Additionally, your tool should also indicate the short description for each sub model which in turn includes a description of what voltage applies to each sub model.

    The sub models to use depend on which DDR signal you want to look at. This is why your tool should look at the selectors for each signal and only allow you to select an appropriate set of options.

    If you look at the datasheet file that was included with the IBIS model it will give you more information on exactly which models are used/selectable by a specific ball.

    The specific sub model from the list of selectable models for a given pin then depends entirely on how you have your board and software configured. The IBIS datasheet file should help you determine exactly which model to select based on your specific configuration and setup.

    Finally, we really do NOT recommend using IBIS simulations for DDR since there is no timing information in these types of simulation. They are only used for signal integrity. We very much recommend using the DSP datasheet PCB guidelines for DDR topology and layout.

    BR,

    Steve

  • Hi Steve,

    Thanks for your support. You 're right about pin assignments with different module.

    But, problem is with DDR Signals. Few pins in bus signals (data & Address) assiged to different modules. It doesn't look synchronized assignment. 

    I simulated few address and data signals. The graph showh a damp in voltage level at both ends (i.e DDR supply voltage= 1.5 V, but resul obtained is 1~1.2 V).

    Please, send me exact ibis model V4.1 for TMS320DM814X

     

     

    Thanks & Regards

    Shashi

  • I am not sure what you mean?

    What do you mean by "doesn't look synchronized assignment"?

    The model you have is the exact model.

    We really do not recommend simulation for the DDR interfaces. You should really be using the PCB design guidelines in the datasheet.

    BR,

    Steve

  • Hi Steve,

    In this model, I found Data strobe (DQS + - )signals are associated with model 3 and 7. Data mask (DQM) signals are associated with model 12. and data [0:31} with model 3. All models are having different parameters(slow, slowest,fast & fastest).  

    In DDR section, one Data byte, one Strobe and one Mask signals are group together. that mean data transfer in a byte is with respect to Strobe signal. But  in IBIS , these signals are associated with different models.

    We followed the design guidelines, further we want to check the functionality behaviour on SI parameters. Please send me IBIS model version 4.1.

     

    Best Rgards

    Shashi

     

     

  • Shashi,

    Just because some signals are in the same logical group does not mean that they should be the same IO cell. It is perfectly acceptable (and usually necessary) to have different IO cells for data and control signals.

    As a side note, do not use IBIS simulations to determine any timing information. IBIS is not timing accurate and should only be used for signal integrity simulations.

    The model you have is already version 4.1 and is the only one we provide.

    BR,

    Steve