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TMS320C5517: Power off and on frequently.

Part Number: TMS320C5517


Hi Experts,

A customer needs to turn on and off frequently to save the power consumption with the system.
Can C5517 support such the power off/on condition?
For example, the voltage levels might not go down to GND level and come back to normal.

Please let me know if it might bring any troubles or not.

Thank you for your kind observation.

Best regards,
Hitoshi

  • Sugawara-san

    Hard to say. I don't think this can be assumed as an intended use-case for the device - so if they want to do something like this, they need to ensure power up and power down sequences are followed per datasheet every power cycle.

    Do you have any idea on the total power cycles they are assuming,  life time of the product,  how many times a day going through the power on power off etc?

    Regards

    Mukul 

  • Hi Mukul,

    I have been checking about the power cycles. 
    Will share the info. soon.

    According to the datasheet, it says as follows:
    Datasheet 5.7.2.2 Power-Supply Sequencing
    The device does not require a specific power-up sequence. However, if the DSP_LDO is disabled
    (DSP_LDO_EN = high) and an external regulator supplies power to the CPU Core (CVDD), the external
    reset signal (RESET) must be held asserted until all of the supply voltages reach their valid operating ranges.

    Note: the external reset signal on the RESET pin must be held low until all of the power supplies reach
    their operating voltage conditions.

    Could you please let me clarify the power up and down sequence?

    Thank you for your time to check.
    Best regards,
    Hitoshi





  • Hi Mukul,

    This is the additional information as follows:

    1) Power cycle:  Once a five minutes.  12 times / hour.
    2) Life : 13 years.

    I would appreciate if you could advise the safer resolution for the request.
    Thank you.

    Best regards,
    Hitoshi

  • Hi Sugawara-san

    This looks like a tough use-case - I will see if I can find some additional guidance from the quality/reliability team on this. 

    Is the application/product working 24/7 - 288 power up/down a day? 

    I did not understand your previous query/post - even if such a scenario is possible, customer will need to strictly follow the recommendations on power up/down sequence per the  datasheet.

    Regards

    Mukul 

  • Hi Mukul,

    I am afraid that I was not able to find the power up/down sequence in the datasheet.
    It says that the device does not require a specific power-up sequence.
    Could you please check it and let me know?
    I would like to introduce the power up/down sequence to the customer.

    Yes, your are correct.
    12 power up  and down a hour so it means 288 power up and down a day.

    Thank you for your kind support.
    Best regards,
    Hitoshi 


  • If there is no sequence and all that is needed is to hold the reset , that should be ok. 
    Essentially we need the customer to follow the guidance in the datasheet - there is no ability to define new power up/down sequence specifically for this use-case (assuming it can be supported) 

  • Hi Mukul,

    Thank you so much for your kind observation.
    Will advise the customer accordingly and ask to evaluate carefully there is no issue under their use case.

    Best regards,
    Hitoshi 

  • Sugawara-san

    Looks like you marked this thread resolved. My previous answer was partial -only addressing your query on power sequencing requirements. 

    I discussed the specific use-case on the # of power ups/down during the day with design and reliability team and they do not recommend customer using the device in such manner. It is not part of reliability assessments in design or in qual and therefore cannot be supported.

    Regards

    Mukul