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IWR1642BOOST: ES 2.0 Label: Where is this label found?

Part Number: IWR1642BOOST
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: IWR1642, UNIFLASH

The goal is to reproduce a demo:  http://dev.ti.com/tirex/#/?link=Software%2FmmWave%20Sensors%2FIndustrial%20Toolbox%2FLabs%2FPeople%20Counting%20Demo 

The webpage indicates it is necessary to have the ES 2.0 device version:

ES2.0 devices only

This lab will only work if the IWR1642BOOST EVM has a sticker that says "ES2.0". ES2.0 devices will only work with software based on mmWave SDK version 2.0 or above. If the EVM does not have the sticker, the device is ES1.0 and requires mmWave SDK version 1.xx.xx.xx. 

I would like to confirm that my device is either 1.0 or 2.0.   Because I do not see a ES 2.0 sticker this link:

https://e2e.ti.com/support/sensor/mmwave_sensors/f/1023/t/698870?-FAQ-IWR1642-IWR1642-ES2-0-is-here-find-applicable-software-based-on-Silicon-Rev  

leads me to believe I do not have a 2.0 device.  The label on the box is data rich: it's hard to tell what's what when the data field is not labeled.   I am unable to find a good phone number for customer support to exchange the device.   Is there a good point of contact that can assist in expediting a ES 2.0 IWR1642BOOST?  

  • Raymond,

    Please refer to the "Device Nomenclature" of the IWR1642 datasheet that can be found here to determine which silicon revision you have:
    www.ti.com/.../iwr1642.pdf

    You will need to look on the actual packaging to determine this information.

    Regards,
    Kyle

  • The IWR 1642 chip is labeled:

    IWR1642

    QG

    82ZC59

    502AC ABL G1

    The nomenclature convention per http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/iwr1642.pdf 

    The IWR1642 chip does not have the 'A' suffix, which leads me to believe that the 'Silicon PG revision' is a 1.0.   I have not seen the definition of an ES 2.0 board-sticker (from a configuration management standpoint), though it would not surprise me if an 'ES 2.0' board requires a 2.0 IWR1642A chip.  If the Silicon PG Revision analysis is not correct, I would like to understand why.

    Is there an electronic litmus test (i.e. a test that can be performed with SDK 2.X)?

    "This lab will only work if the IWR1642BOOST EVM has a sticker that says "ES2.0". ES2.0 devices will only work with software based on mmWave SDK version 2.0 or above. If the EVM does not have the sticker, the device is ES1.0 and requires mmWave SDK version 1.xx.xx.xx. " 

    I have requested to RMA the device, but before returning it: I think it makes sense to confirm that the EVM is a 'ES 1.0' EVM board.

    I would like to understand the definition of an 'ES 2.0' stickered EVM board and how it is fundamentally different from the unlabeled 'ES 1.0' EVM Board

  • Raymond,

    Please keep in mind that while you may have an ES 1.0 device, there are previous versions of the people counting demo that are compatible with ES 1.0 devices. Please search this forum to understand how to access previous releases of the industrial toolbox.

    Regards,
    Kyle
  • I had specifically requested a ES2.0 device from the TI store and was shipped a device that was not labeled ES2.0 (forums indicate that lack of such a label is 1.0 device). At $300 for the EVM, I expect to be able to use the latest people counting demo software and not be relegated to older versions. The questions are centered around how to definitively confirm the whether device is a 1.0 or 2.0 **EVM board**. If it is a 2.0 board and just not labeled, I can accept that if I can confirm 2.0 functionality with a 'litmus test'.

    Akashi Gondola indicated:

    If it [1642 Chips] says 502 then it is ES1.0, and if it says 502A then it is ES2.0.

  • Raymond,

    If you have either a devPack or DCA1000, you can determine the version of silicon on your device using mmWave Studio. I can provide additional information on that process if needed.

    I also want to make sure we are not getting caught up in semantics here. An ES 2.0 device will only been populated on an ES 2.0 board. The terms are effectively interchangeable. If the silicon packing indicates it is an ES 1.0 device, then you have an ES 1.0 board. The terms board and device should not be confused here.

    Again, I will refer you to the process for downloading a previous version of the people counting demo lab. You can compare the chirps that are implemented in both version and see if there is any difference. It could very well be the case that the chirps are identical.

    Any questions or comments about the RMA process or the ordering process are not addressed on this forum and should be directed to customer support or your local distributor.

    Regards,
    Kyle
  • Kyle,

    I appreciate your patience and explanations. I do not have a devPack or DCA1000: I purchased the only the EVM1642BOOST from the TI store.   I am seeking to avoid configuration management issues by using only 2.0 hardware.

    Based on your response, the takeaway is that an ES2.0 label applies not only to the board: it also applies to the version of the radar chip, which is also supported by TI's Akash Gondola:

    If it [1642 radar chip] says 502 then it is ES1.0, and if it says 502A then it is ES2.0.


    @community:

    This new bit of information indicates that my device MAY be 2.0. I now seek a procedure that comprises connecting the EVM device to a PC and perform a test that will confirm 2.0 hardware \ functionality.

    Thanks,
    Raymond

  • Raymond,

    In that case, please try to flash the out of the box demo for the IWR1642 device from the mmWave SDK v2.0.0.4. You can find this SDK release here: www.ti.com/.../MMWAVE-SDK

    If you can successfully flash the binaries and run the visualizer, then you have an ES 2.0 device. But based on the information provided and the markings on your device, it does appear that you have an ES 2.0 device.

    Regards,
    Kyle
  •  A windows 7 PC is configured with:

    • mmwave industrial toolbox 2.5.1 (requires ES2.0 IWR1642BOOST)
    • Uniflash 4.4.0
    • mmwave_SDK 02_00_00_04

    Step 3 of this the people counter procedure to flash the EVM was successful.
     
    dev.ti.com/.../pplcount_user_guide.html

    Starting the application causes a crash:

    Is it possible to conclude the EVM is a 2.0 device despite the error message above?

    Is there a simpler procedure (link is appreciated) that can verify that the device is ES 2.0?

    Thanks,
    Raymond

  • Raymond,

    I would suggest starting with our out-of-box demo.

    This can be at this location on your computer: C:\ti\mmwave_sdk_02_00_00_04\packages\ti\demo\xwr16xx\mmw

    Use the Uniflash tool to flash the binary file.

    Then use the online visualizer found here: dev.ti.com/.../

    Please make sure to read the documentation for both the out-of-box demo and the online visualizer to understand how to use them.

    Regards,
    Kyle