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What a rip-off...

Alexandru Dima1
Intellectual 400 points
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: MSP430F5438A

I'm not a millionaire. I don't come from a wealthy family. I make enough money to get by...and I'm trying to evaluate the CC256X using the KeyFobDemo Bluetooth application with CCS on my own as I'm just a solo entrepreneur and developer trying to experiment and create a prototype for my own kickstarter idea.

SO WHY...when I have exactly this configuration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzKKWU6zeXE (CC256X/MSP430)

Why, does it say, in CCS that the KeyFobDemo app exceeds the maximum code size? Hmm? You guys want me to license your CCS application now AS WELL as buy the hardware? Are you kidding me? I thought it was expensive enough to buy the boards and that you guys made enough money from the actual chips you sell...but if you wanna promote business this is NOT the way to do it. You BETTER BELIEVE I will be calling you guys tomorrow. This is ridiculous. I BOUGHT AN "EVALUATION" BOARD. Keyword: Evaluation. FOR MY APPLICATION, I CANNOT EVALUATE YOUR PRODUCT BECAUSE YOUR SOFTWARE IMPOSES A CODE SIZE LIMIT! I CAN'T RUN YOUR DEMO APP FOR MY "EVALUATION"...IN FACT, I CAN'T RUN ANY BLUETOOTH DEMO APPLICATION AND EVALUATE THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE HARDWARE I WANT TO EVALUATE FROM YOU GUYS, BECAUSE BLUETOOTH LIBRARIES BY DEFAULT WILL EXCEED YOUR MAXIMUM CODE SIZE LIMITS NO MATTER WHAT I DO. Had I known this, I would have went with the RFDuino as my gut instinct told me to do...but instead I foolishly made the mistake of choosing to buy these development boards which I will probably end up returning due to this lack of information you have, TI. I am a very unsatisfied customer. When did you guys plan on telling your users about this?! Why would you even want to make money off the software when the cash is in the hardware? I am so...so upset over this. Who made this decision? I need to call and speak with you guys tomorrow. This is crazy.

And where is the source for the BLE Multitool? Like, are you kidding me...wow guys...

  • 0
    Guru 86765 points

    Hi Alexandru,

         I hope you are reading my post with a cooler head.

         You can try the IAR workbench 30-day time-limited evaluation license, which is fully functional and not code size limited. You can see this post below for some info.

        IAR

    -kel

  • 0 in reply to Markel Robregado
    Intellectual 400 points

    I understand that I can use the trial IAR, and by the way thanks for the prompt response, but I feel more comfortable working with CCS as it is so much more integrated into my hardware as far as I can tell (the only software to come with drivers I need that work with Windows 8.1 for my configuration). Every bone of justness in my body is trying to tell me how dirty this whole situation is, and it's just not right to me as a consumer to be hindered like this. I shouldn't have to license anything extra at this point, and I don't want to use a trial version of a software for a hardware device that I might end up buying more components of. Surely you understand where I'm coming from? If I buy hardware for the purpose of evaluating it, that should be my only cost. The code size limit on code composer should either be eliminated or be increased so that I can actually evaluate this hardware, because right now I can't. That's very upsetting, especially since it never said anything about this online or in YouTube videos or demos I've seen.

  • 0 in reply to Alexandru Dima1
    Guru 86765 points

    Hi Alexandru,

    I feel your pain. I have similar experience to this and also a lot of engineers. The youtube video really does not provide all the info and is more of just a demo.

    However, it is important to do your research and know if your project is feasible.

    Engineers with more experience who encounter your problem, would just accept the situation, then solve the problem, then just focus on the "objective". But, there is that factor of limited funds, which will really block your "objective".

    -kel

  • 0 in reply to Markel Robregado
    TI__Guru* 85400 points

    Hi Alexandru,

    I compiled the bluetooth sample apps available from the Bluetopia release v1.4 (including the KeyFobDemo sample app) on CCS ( Version: 5.5.0.00077) and I did not come across any memory issues. 

    Can you please reconfirm the exact MSP platform? As I understand, all the demos build without any issues on the "MSP430F5438A Exp" platform. 

    Was any of the MSP platform related project settings changed?

    Regards,

    Gigi Joseph.

  • 0
    TI__Mastermind 23565 points

    Dear Alexandru,

    Our CC256x MSP430 SDKs support IAR and CCS IDEs. Both IDEs do have a free time-limited evaluation version. You are welcome to use them during the evaluation period.

    Useful CCS links:

    http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Licensing_-_CCS#Free_Licenses

    http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php?title=Activating_CCS

    Best Regards,

    Miguel

  • 0 in reply to Joseph Gigi
    Intellectual 400 points

    I get the following errors in CCS:

    Description Resource Path Location Type
    #10269 output file "KeyFobDemo.out" exceeds code size limit KeyFobDemo C/C++ Problem
    #10010 errors encountered during linking; "KeyFobDemo.out" not built KeyFobDemo C/C++ Problem

    ^ My license for CCS, the default free one most people expect to use for the MPS430 has a 16KB code limit. What license are you running, Gigi? First error explains that I'm exceeding the code size limit, second error is due to the first, as the compiler doesn't allow the building of this project...its sad because, I want to evaluate this product with CCS and I can't.

  • 0 in reply to Alexandru Dima1
    Intellectual 400 points

    I made the mistake of installing the 16 KB code-size limited version of CCS, and now I wan't to install the evaluation license version of it. I can't seem to uninstall it from the control panel, because it says that I don't have sufficient privileges, which is not true, since I am the only computer administrator on my system/only account on the system. The installer's uninstall feature is probably broken. But even still, when I tried to run the installer again and reinstall over the same studio, it gave me no option of installing the evaluation license anymore, so what do I do now?

  • 0 in reply to Alexandru Dima1
    Guru 86765 points

    Hi Alexandru,

    You, can post this CCS problem at the CCS forum. You will have more expert advice there regarding this. See link below.

    http://e2e.ti.com/support/development_tools/code_composer_studio/default.aspx

    Here below is a post regarding CCS un-install problem

    http://e2e.ti.com/support/development_tools/code_composer_studio/f/81/t/314725.aspx

    It is also recommended to remove all previous installations of CCS before installing a more current version. Also, turn off your Anti-Virus when installing CCS.

    -kel

  • 0 in reply to Alexandru Dima1
    TI__Mastermind 23565 points

    Alexandru,

    As mentioned above, please check the CCS forum for further details on any CCS support questions.

    Thank you,

    Miguel

  • 0 in reply to Miguel
    Intellectual 400 points

    Okay, I have posted here: http://e2e.ti.com/support/development_tools/code_composer_studio/f/81/t/315182.aspx

  • 0 in reply to Alexandru Dima1
    Intellectual 400 points

    I found a solution...I had to delete my local application settings for it under my user account in Windows in order to get it to work. So, essentially, I had to delete this folder:

    "C:\Users\<YourAccountName>\AppData\Local\.TI"