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Test Bluetooth to Cloud connection

Mike Bullen
Prodigy 155 points
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: CC3200, CC3100, CC2538

I want to test the ability to connect Bluetooth devices to the board and from the board send the data directly to my Azure cloud services not using wifi but IPV6. Can this be done with TI dev board?

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    TI__Guru 57865 points

    Hi Mike,

    Whatever protocol you want to use besides Bluetooth low energy, you'd need some other solution for that protocol. There is some (BT SIG) work on IPV6 via BLE but that's gonna take a while until it hits the market.

    Best Regards 

    Joakim

  • 0 in reply to J Lindh
    Prodigy 155 points

    That response dose not clarify this =TI's SimpleLink™ Solutions offers embedded wireless microcontrollers (MCU) or system-on-chips (SOCs) with integrated MCU, RF transceiver and more. We leverage generations of TI's wireless IP and RF experience to accelerate your RF development, allowing you to focus on your Internet of Things design.

    Each product is supported with its own design ecosystem starting with evaluation and development tools to reference designs, to training and extensive online support tools. This enables you to create your wireless solution with TI helping you from start to finish.

    SimpleLink™ Wireless MCUs support wireless technologies including standards-based 6LoWPAN, Bluetooth® low energy, Wi-Fi®, and ZigBee®, as well as proprietary Sub-1 and proprietary 2.4 GHz. The portfolio is compatible with TI's MCUs and power management solutions.  Seems this supports BT and 6LowPAN same MCU. my question if this is so is how to get information to program the cloud connection. i may be misunderstanding SimpleLink.

  • 0 in reply to Mike Bullen
    TI__Guru 57865 points

    Hi Mike,

    I believe it's clarifies pretty good with the line "Each product is supported with its own design ecosystem ...". Either way the "SimpleLink™ Wireless MCUs" refers to different solutions that supports various protocols, which are mentioned in the text. The portfolio is not a product, it's a set of products. I'm sorry if the concept created misunderstandings.

    Note that if you connect your Bluetooth low energy product to a smart phone, you are basically accessing the cloud.

    If you describe the use case of your design we could elaborate a bit on how you can move forward.

    Best Regards 

    Joakim

  • 0 in reply to J Lindh
    Prodigy 155 points

    Hueston I think we ready for lift off: The use case is as follows:

    I want to place a device (un-named) in my patients home or in a nursing home. The device will receive data from existing BT devices using the BLE module [Not sure if paring can be done] The data collected will be sent to the cloud using IPV6 or sent to our partner AT&T. "SimpleLink seems to provide this functionality. An addition to the device will be fall detection. That's it BLE and IPV6 going directly to the cloud, option for wifi and option for AT&T.

    What i need now is what development platform can be used to test this? Next i will name the device or accept a name from the community.

  • 0 in reply to Mike Bullen
    Prodigy 155 points

    Just want to make sure that I point out where my information is coming from. It's from TI: The modules are below. The IPV is 6LoWPAN  The bluetooth is Smart BLE and there is good old WiFi.

    • CC3100 and CC3200 modules 

    TI’s SimpleLink wireless connectivity portfolio 
    TI’s SimpleLink portfolio of low power wireless connectivity solutions – wireless MCUs, wireless network processors (WNPs), RF transceivers and range extenders for the broad embedded market – makes it easier to develop and connect anything to the Internet of Things (IoT). Spanning over 14 standards and technologies including Wi-Fi®, Bluetooth®, Bluetooth low energy, ZigBee®, Sub-1 GHz, 6LoWPAN and more, SimpleLink products help manufacturers add wireless connectivity to anything, to any design, for anyone. www.ti.com/simplelink.

  • 0 in reply to Mike Bullen
    TI__Genius 12480 points

    Mike,

    6LoWPAN is a standard to enable to use of IP over PHY media that cannot handle the MTU packet length of 1280 bytes per default. E.g. to be able to send a fully IPv6 compliant IPv6 packet over a IEEE802.15.4 radio you would need to shop the packet in smaller sizes, since the max packet lenght for IEEE802.15.4 is 127 bytes. TI has solutions for using 6LoWPAN over our IEEE802.15.4 compliant radios like the CC2538. Please see http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Contiki-6LOWPAN 

    As Joakim points out there is also work ongoing in the Bluetooth SIG to enable IPv6 using 6LoWPAN over BLE PHY, but this is not something that is currently supported. 

    Anyway... in order to get from a BLE/ZigBee/Proprietary world and on the the Internet you would need some sort of Gateway (in the BLE case this can be an App on your smartphone) handling the translation between the protocol used on the devices and Internet Protocol. For a 6lowpan solution the "gateway" is a router (not performing any address translation or such)

    Please let us know if it makes sense!

    Regards,

    Jonas

  • 0 in reply to Firefighter
    Prodigy 155 points

    Thanks for guiding me in this discussion. TI documentation reference: My project is really the Internet Of Things for healthcare. Note in the third bullet TI says "Cloud connection" This I will take care of working with Microsoft, ist doable. We have IP6 on that side. We have to define a channel to Azure. TI does not elaborate on the cloud connection. Its the first time we are doing this from my new device yet to be defined directly to the cloud. benefit user does not have to have a phone. Before I start do you know SimpleLink provides the paring for BT? Would other existing 6LoWPAN work on TI, should be standard? This is a partner project with Microsoft.

    Texas Instruments (TI) introduced its new SimpleLink™ Wi-Fi® CC3100 and CC3200 platforms for Internet of Things (IoT) applications. The SimpleLink Wi-Fi family is the first in a series of new easy, low power SimpleLink wireless connectivity solutions for the IoT. This new Internet-on-a-chip™ family allows customers to easily add embedded Wi-Fi and Internet to a wide-range of home, industrial and consumer electronics through features including:

    • The industry's lowest power consumption for battery operated devices with a low power radio and advanced low power modes.
    • Flexibility to use any microcontroller (MCU) with the CC3100 solution or leverage the CC3200's integrated programmable ARM® Cortex®-M4 MCU, allowing customers to add their own code.
    • Easy development for the IoT with quick connection, cloud support and on-chip Wi-Fi, Internet and robust security protocols, requiring no prior Wi-Fi experience to get a product connected. 
    • The ability to simply and securely connect their devices to Wi-Fi using a phone or tablet app or a web browser with multiple provisioning options including SmartConfig™ Technology, WPS and AP mode.
  • 0 in reply to Mike Bullen
    Prodigy 155 points

    2806.Microsoft IOT.docx

    docx file for IOT on the microsoft side.

  • 0 in reply to Mike Bullen
    TI__Genius 12480 points

    TI has a third party network with cloud providers: 

    http://newscenter.ti.com/2014-04-10-TI-helps-manufacturers-connect-more-with-launch-of-Internet-of-Things-IoT-cloud-ecosystem

    Another IoT link: http://www.ti.com/ww/en/internet_of_things/index.html?DCMP=ConnectMore&HQS=connectmore

    Someone form the Bluetooth/BLE team has to answer to pairing question.

    Cheers,

    Jonas