LDC1000 EVM GUI 1_0_4_1

vittorio tenca

Prodigy 55 points

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Hi All

I have two LDC1000 EVM and I was testing them with LDC1000_EVM_GUI_1_0_2_0, all was (quite) fine.

I have installed LDC1000_EVM_GUI_1_0_4_1, but now I have big troubles in working with it.

I upload the firmware with “LDC1000 Firmware 0x300.txt”, switched the driver, installed and re-installed the GUI but:

- The driver seems works fine, I can use Hyper Terminal for talking with the LDC1000 EVM in reading and writing mode.

- When I start LDC1000_EVM_GUI_1_0_4_1, I can update the LDC1000 EVM firmware, I can see the resistance values on the diagram, and switch the LEDs ON and OFF, but, when I try to modify some parameter like Rmin, Rmax … ( after I stopped the acquisition), no modification is made and the GUI does not run anymore.

I also tried to switch back to LDC1000_EVM_GUI_1_0_2_0, but I got no connection with the LDC1000 EVM ( I suppose the new firmware is no working with the old GUI).

Any idea? Can I switch back to the old LDC1000 EVM firmware and use GUI_1_0_2_0 that at least was (quite) working ?

Thanks

over 10 years ago

0 Charles Cheung* over 10 years ago

TI__Intellectual 2790 points

Hi VT,

You can downgrade using the firmware attached "LDC1000 Firmware 0x0208," but afterwards, you will have to reinstall version 1.0.2.0, force install the older drivers, and restart your system.

I find it strange how modifying Rpmin and Rpmax would freeze the GUI. Can you describe in more detail your steps to reproduce the problem before the downgrade?

7242.LDC1000 Firmware 0x0208.txt

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Thanks,

0 vittorio tenca over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 55 points

Dear Charles

Thanks a lot for your help and the very quick answer.

I downgraded the firmware and re installed GUI_1_0_2_0 and now all if working.

With the GUI_1_0_4_1 I saw the following:

When you start the GUI there is the Proximity data plot running and it is possible to observe

the LDC1000 EVM data. But if you stop the plot and you go in the configuration page, the Rmin and Rmax are set to 3926.991, the voltage 1V, sensor frq to 2.500KHz... like if the program was unable to read the EVM. If you try to read the values you have to click several time on Read All before you get the update.

If you try to change them nothing happen.

If you go to the register page, you are unable to change the values, and if you try to read them, sometime it works sometime no.

If, after that, you return to the plot page, and try to start the plot, it starts for few seconds and then stops and the LED command, that previously was working, now does not work anymore.

At the end of the day the issue is that there is a problem in the link between the GUI and the board.

I tried the system with my desk top and with my laptop. On both of them there was installed GUI version GUI_1_0_2_0, and on both version GUI_1_0_4_1 does not work.

I have Window XP 2002, service Pack 3, normally updated, both on the desk top and on the laptop.

Thanks again for your help, if you need some more information do not hesitate to contact me.

Vittorio

0 Charles Cheung* over 10 years ago in reply to vittorio tenca

TI__Intellectual 2790 points

Hi Vittorio,

This sounds like part of the problem is that the calibration routine in the firmware update procedure went awry. This means that your EVM defaults are not optimal - they could be completely off. In the case this happens, you set your values in the register page to:

Texas Instruments,LDC1000 EVM GUI,1.0.4.1,Register Configuration File,LDC1000,0x0300
Address,Value,Default,Type,Register Name
0x00,,,Byte,Revision ID
0x01,0x10,0x10,Byte,Rp_MAX
0x02,0x3F,0x3F,Byte,Rp_MIN
0x03,0x15,0x15,Byte,Sensor Frequency
0x04,0x17,0x17,Byte,LDC Configuration
0x05,0x00,0x00,Byte,Clock Configuration
0x06,0x00,0x00,Byte,Comparator Threshold High LSB
0x07,0x14,0x14,Byte,Comparator Threshold High MSB
0x08,0x00,0x00,Byte,Comparator Threshold Low LSB
0x09,0x15,0x15,Byte,Comparator Threshold Low MSB
0x0A,0x04,,Byte,INT Pin Configuration
0x0B,0x01,,Byte,Power Configuration
0x20,,,Byte,Status
0x21,,,Byte,Proximity Data LSB
0x22,,,Byte,Proximity Data MSB
0x23,,,Byte,Frequency Counter LSB
0x24,,,Byte,Frequency Counter Mid-Byte
0x25,,,Byte,Frequency Counter MSB

Then, click "Save Values as Defaults"

I've attached the configuration file you can load:

3603.0x300_defaults.csv

Are you running multiple instances of the GUI? In the new version of the firmware, the INT pin is set to DRDYB, which is constantly aggregating data. Was any rework done on the EVM?

Thanks,

0 vittorio tenca over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 55 points

Dear Charles

I am using a single instance of the GUI, ok for the INT pin is set to DRDYB, one of my EVM is original, one is reworked. I am using the original for testing the GUI.

The EVM was working fine with the old EVM_GUI_1_0_2_0; today I re-installed on my laptop the new EVM_GUI_1_0_4_1, updated the firmer and the driver, restart the system, loaded the 3603.0x300_defaults.csv and Saved Values as Defaults. The register page on the GUI show the new set, but still I cannot make change on the register values, If I close and open again the GUI, the registers are not updated ( they still show Rmin= 3926.991 and Rmax= 3926.991 … ) and they do not update also by clicking on Read All button; or better: if you click several time some register come updated but probably with wrong values. The Proximity data on the GUI are showed but the inductance data are inf uH. If I use Hyper Terminal, both the Proximity data and the inductance data are showed in a correct way. For this test I also turned off the firewall and antivirus.

Thanks

Vittorio

0 Charles Cheung* over 10 years ago in reply to vittorio tenca

TI__Intellectual 2790 points

Hi Vittorio,

Thanks for the description. It seems that the internal FLASH, blocks infoC and infoD, for default value saving routine (new to firmware version 0.3.0.0) is not working for your board, perhaps due to corrupt memory. We will look through the code and try to find a fix or workaround for corrupt memory issues in these sectors.

Thanks,

0 Paul Jenn over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 60 points

GUI 1.0.2.0 was working fine for me. After I upgrade it to 1.0.4.1, I've seen all problems mentioned by others in the forum plus:

The same Rp range worked in 1.0.2.0 no longer works in the new version..

Inductance chart works fine but proximity stay at 32768.0 (average) - no response at all

I used to be able to find the Rp range with the green LED by trial and error. No longer with the new version.

0 Paul Jenn over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 60 points

Dear Charles:

I have at least 2 EVM stuck at upgraded firmware. Could you give step-by-step procedure to down grade it. I don't have very technical people, I just bought the stick and use as is (well, before 1.0.4.1...), and it worked just fine.

0 Amaia Azpitarte over 10 years ago in reply to Paul Jenn

Prodigy 60 points

Hi all,

I have two LDC1000EVM. I installed LDC1000EVM GUI 1.0.3.0 and everything seemed to be working correctly.

Few days ago, I installed the last version of the GUI and now, I have the same problems that Vittorio Tenca has mentioned.

I would like to reinstall the old version (software and firmware), in order to continue working with the LDC1000EVM until the problem is fixed, but I could not find the old software versions in your website (I deleted the previous version when I installed the new one). Where can I find them?

Thanks in advanced,

Amaia

0 Ben Kasemsadeh over 10 years ago in reply to Amaia Azpitarte

TI__Genius 13650 points

Hello Amaia,Vittorio, and Paul,

I am sorry that you are having problems since the latest update. Until the issues are addressed, please try using the old GUI (rev 1.0.3.0), which I attached to this post. Please uninstall the existing GUI before installing the attached file.

Let me know if the GUI downgrade works for you, or if a firmware downgrade is also required.

LDC1000_EVM_GUI_1_0_3_0_Setup.zip

0 Amaia Azpitarte over 10 years ago in reply to Ben Kasemsadeh

Prodigy 60 points

Hello Ben,

Thank you for your reply. In my case, it is necessary a firmware downgrade too.

Can you provide the firmware that corresponds to this GUI version?

Thanks,

Amaia

0 vittorio tenca over 10 years ago in reply to Ben Kasemsadeh

Prodigy 55 points

Hallo Ben, Hi All

GUI (rev 1.0.3.0) and LDC1000 EVM with 0x0208 firmware version works, for me.

LDC1000 EVM with 0x300 firmware version seems unable to link to any GUI even if it works with Hyper terminal.

Maybe something is wrong in 0x300 firmware version.

Best Regards

Vittorio

0 Ben Kasemsadeh over 10 years ago in reply to vittorio tenca

TI__Genius 13650 points

Hello Amaia,

Charles already attached Firmware 0x0208 earlier in this thread.

Hello Vittorio,

we will investigate the issue with 0x0300. For clarification, are you unable to connect a firmware 0x0300 EVM to both GUI rev 1.030 and 1.041?

0 vittorio tenca over 10 years ago in reply to Ben Kasemsadeh

Prodigy 55 points

Hello Ben

Yes, even if: with 1.041+0x0300, some kind of connection happens (the plot was running), with 1.030 + 0x0300 I was not able to get any connection.

Best Regards

Vittorio

0 Ben Kasemsadeh over 10 years ago in reply to vittorio tenca

TI__Genius 13650 points

Vittorio,

Please downgrade the firmware and GUI until the issues have been resolved. I apologize about the inconvenience.

Please follow this procedure for downgrading the firmware:

uninstall GUI 1.030 (if present)
use the latest GUI rev. 1.041 and click on tools-->flash firmware. Select the firmware file 7242.LDC1000 Firmware 0x0208.txt
after the firmware downgrade has been completed, uninstall GUI 1.041 (important)
install GUI 1.030 . The Connection information in the top left corner of GUI should show Firmware rev 0.208.

0 Charles Cheung* over 10 years ago in reply to vittorio tenca

TI__Intellectual 2790 points

Hi All,

I am sorry to hear about these issues and will work to resolve the problem. The "no connection" issue is related to the drivers. You *must* restart your system after re-installing between versions from or to 1.0.4.0+, and any EVMs must be disconnected during this process. If you do not wish to restart, the alternative is to go through Control Panel and install the old *.inf driver manually.

Thanks,

0 Adrian Godwin over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 70 points

I had similar issues and have tried to follow this procedure.

I had originally installed 1.0.4.1, accepted the suffestion to upgrade firmware on first connection, and later attempted to fix it by re-writing firmware and parameters as suggested elsewhere. The firmware replacement appeared to be OK, although the firmware update box did insist that no BSLs were found.

However, when I tried to downgrade to 0x280, the flashing failed. The EVM is no longer recognised and no longer lights the green LED.

Is there a way to 'unbrick' it ? I do have some other MSP430 evaluation kits if they can be used as a programmer (but not much expertise in using them).

0 Adrian Godwin over 10 years ago in reply to Adrian Godwin

Prodigy 70 points

More information : although the EVM GUI shows no sign of the device, the firmware updater was able to try again. Looks hopeful, will continue with the downgrade procedure ..

0 Adrian Godwin over 10 years ago in reply to Adrian Godwin

Prodigy 70 points

The LDC1000EVM now flashes red/green on connection, changes to green only, then no LEDs.

It shows Disconnected in the 1.0.3.0 GUI, but does appear as EVM in the devices tab, and as ttyACM0 oni linux. However, it ignores a '?' sent through a terminal.

0 Charles Cheung* over 10 years ago in reply to Adrian Godwin

TI__Intellectual 2790 points

Hi Adrian,

You are using old firmware. The old firmware only supports the legacy protocol. You have to also reinstall the old drivers for it to show up as the old "LDC1000EVM" instead of "EVM."

The new version of the firmware does not calibrate every time it's plugged in. It only calibrates once and stores the defaults on the microcontroller flash. The old firmware does not have that capability. The new firmware supports three protocols: the legacy protocol, a limited ASCII menu, and the binary protocol. It also has 24-bit L streaming capability and DRDY aggregation of data.

You cannot use the old firmware with the new GUI. It simply isn't written to support it.

Thanks,

0 Adrian Godwin over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 70 points

OK, thanks. Understood on the legacy protocol. I just tried '01' and got 1FFFFFFF back, so I guess that works.

However, I've removed 1.0.4.1, rebooted, installed 1.0.3.0 as described above. The driver identifies as 1.3.0.0 11/2/2014. How can I get it to revert to the older one ?

0 Charles Cheung* over 10 years ago in reply to Adrian Godwin

TI__Intellectual 2790 points

Hi Adrian,

The drivers are in the driver sub-folder in the application installation directory.

You can either roll back or uninstall. Found a link:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/246041/how_to_uninstall_drivers_in_windows.html

Thanks,

0 Adrian Godwin over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 70 points

Hi Charles,

I uninstalled and reinstalled a few times. I couldn't rollback, because the older driver had never been installed. Every time I reinstalled (directing windows to the 1.0.3.0 driver directory) it found the later driver instead. When I installed by nominating the .inf file directly, it brought up the 'new hardware' popup when I connected the EVM.

I finally did it by choosing 'select a specific version', which offered me a choice of EVM and LDC1000EVM. Choosing LDC1000EVM at that point did it, and it now works.

Thanks!

0 Charles Cheung* over 10 years ago in reply to Adrian Godwin

TI__Intellectual 2790 points

Glad you got it working :-D

0 Giuseppe Lo Cicero over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 10 points

Hi Charles,

Thank you for the useful information.

I had similar problems with software 1.0.4.1 and firmware 0.3.0.0 (proximity data at 32768 an infinity inductance). I bought the LDC1000 in October 2013.

Downgrading to software 1.0.3.0 and firmware 0.2.0.8, the system seems to work fine.

The only issue I have seen is that the serial number of the connected LDC1000EVM is not read correctly (Invalid Serial: FFFFFFF...).

0 Charles Cheung* over 10 years ago in reply to Giuseppe Lo Cicero

TI__Intellectual 2790 points

Hi Giuseppe,

Don't worry about that. The serial number is for us to keep track of manufacturing and quality issues.

Thanks,

0 Mike Totham over 10 years ago in reply to Charles Cheung*

Prodigy 10 points

Thank goodness I found this thread. I have been wasting a lot of time with GUI 1.0.4.1 and the latest firmware on two eval boards. One vanilla the other with an external wound coil. First one worked and the other didn't then I was getting the 'noisy' 32768 proximity reading & infinite Inductance problem and could not write to any of the registers. Both my eval boards came from Farnell in the UK and I thought it was me.

I have rolled back to GUI 1.0.3.0 and '0208' firmware and I have at least one EVAL board working again. I had to manually remove the 'EVM' driver and choose the 'LDC1000EVM' driver but apart from that it was plain sailing all thanks to this thread.

A question now remains, of course, this thread ran out of steam in April and it is now 22nd June so has anything been solved to make GUI 1.0.4.1 and some new firmware work properly?

TIA

Mike

0 Guillaume C over 9 years ago in reply to Mike Totham

Prodigy 10 points

Hi all,

It appears that one year later, the v1.0.4.1 is still the current version available for the PC application LDC1000 EVM Software GUI.
Please could anyone let me know if there are some actions running to have the issues fixed or if the source code will be available?

Many thanks!

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