MSP430 “Wolverine”pin compatibilty

paddu1 said:

... One of our customer wants to use MSP430FRxx, as they want 64KB flash, ..

Paddu,

There will be pin compatibility in the 38 and 40 pin packages on the FR58xx for those of you out there who want to design today knowing you will have more memory space in the future. 

FR58x/59x will also be available in 48-pin packages.

Thanks,

Jacob

Jacob,

- what is the pinout for 48-pin packages?

- when are the samples and eval boards expected?

Jan

jan2809 said:

- what is the pinout for 48-pin packages?

- when are the samples and eval boards expected?

The pinout is avialble today in the preliminary data sheet for the MSP430FR5969.  You can now order samples and try them in the MSP-FET430U48C board.

Thanks Jason,

- ti.com/wolverine - still showing "coming soon" and tideals.com-"sorry for the trouble"

- is the evaluation board (as shown in the demos) to be released?

Jan

jan2809 said:

- is the evaluation board (as shown in the demos) to be released?

Would you be more specific?  Do you have a link, part number, or image of this evaluation board?

The MSP-FET430U48C board is the first board you can use to evaluate Wolverines series parts.  No other board is available at the moment.  However, this will not be the only Wolverine kit.

Hi Jason,

This one http://www.43oh.com/2012/02/fresh-new-msp430-wolverine-dev-kit-with-lcd-boosterpack/

Jan

Jan,

The websites should be fixed, and that board will not be purchasable for a while.  We plan to integrate more than just the new silicon, so stay tuned for some exciting software and toolchain capabilities.  We will be demoing this board in many more places, so come out to one of our events to discuss your use case.

Thanks,
Jacob

Jan,

Your first request was changed to 4 pcs instead of two separate requests for 2 pieces.

Thanks,

I received my free sample of the, XMS430FR5969IRGZR Ultra-Low Power 16-bit Micro-controller. But, I didn't realize that it wont work on my MSP-EXP430G2 LaunchPad. As, I had previously thought. I spent over an hour on the TI Site researching and I thought that it would work. But, I was wrong, it only works with the MSP430 Wolverine Board. I thought, Wolverine was the name of the XMS430FR5969IRGZR Processor. But, here I found... "The MSP-FET430U48C board is the first board you can use to evaluate Wolverines series parts.  No other board is available at the moment. However, this will not be the only Wolverine kit." From, (http://e2e.ti.com/support/microcontrollers/msp43016-bit_ultra-low_power_mcus/f/166/t/217992.aspx). But, I did Not find this page, until after I received my Sample XMS430FR5969IRGZR Processor. And from the Pictures on the XMS430FR5969IRGZR Page. I thought, from looking at the Picture (http://www.ti.com/product/msp430fr5969). That this processor was of a design, like the processors that came with the MSP-EXP430G2. And I could just plug it in to my board. But, this is not the case. So, sadly. I wont be able to Test and Review the XMS430FR5969IRGZR Ultra-Low Power 16-bit Micro-controller. I see that at least on other person may have had the same problem (link below).

Don

Forums - MSP430 Ultra-Low Power 16-bit Micro-controller Forum - MSP430™16-bit Ultra-Low Power MCUs - TI E2E Community
Go there...
http://e2e.ti.com/support/microcontrollers/msp43016-bit_ultra-low_power_mcus/f/166/p/798556/reply.aspx

Don,

There is more than one solution for every problem.

"My favorite programming language is a soldering iron."
- Steve Ciarcia

Get a Schmart board or similar http://www.schmartboard.com/index.asp?page=products_qfp&id=70

Here is the picture of final solution

Hope this helps.

Jan

jan2809 said:

"My favorite programming language is a soldering iron." - Steve Ciarcia

Hi Jan,

Thanks for the Pic and Link (http://www.schmartboard.com/index.asp?page=products_qfp&id=70). That's an interesting Board. It reminds me of the Home Etched Board Projects, that I have seen.

Here's a few, http://www.instructables.com/id/Printed-Circuit-Board-PCB-Sprayer-Machine/

And http://hackaday.com/2011/08/03/an-arm-dev-board-you-can-make-at-home/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

And http://hackaday.com/2011/10/17/lcd-backpack-from-arduino-board-to-homemade-pcb/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

And http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlui7s4lj7g&feature=player_embedded

Looks like the Board from your Link. The "202-0011-01 QFP, 32 - 100 Pins 0.5mm Pitch, 2" X 2" Grid EZ Version. Support up to 100 pins QFP, TQFP, PQFP package IC with 0.5mm pitch, 20 pcs. of 0603 package, and some thru hole passive components. 6 ground holes are connected a copper plane on the bottom side." Would be well worth $10. Since the chemicals, alone. Not to mention the time and other materials needed to etch a board like that, would be more than $10. I use to be pretty good at Soldering, But, alas, I can't see well enough now. To Solder something as small as the XMS430FR5969IRGZR. I need my Dollar Store Glass and a Magnifying Glass, just to Solder a normal sized Wire on a PCB now!:) So, that would be a No Go, for me... Here are some Size Comparison Pics, of the XMS430FR5969IRGZR, while setting my finger. Check out more Pics and info, on my Blog, http://donsdeals.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-new-ti-xms430fr5969irgzr-msp430.html And the Pics are also on my Server here, ftp://bishopco.homeip.net/pub/Pictures/TI-XMS430FR5969IRGZR-Ultra-Low-Power-Microcontroller/.








And here's the Mechanical Data PDF on the TI Site, with the Pin and Size info, (http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/mpqf123e/mpqf123e.pdf).

And here's another Site that sells, Boards that are Pre-Made for Projects, http://evilmadscience.com/productsmenu/partsmenu/546

Thanks again,

Don

jan2809 said:

This one http://www.43oh.com/2012/02/fresh-new-msp430-wolverine-dev-kit-with-lcd-boosterpack/

You can now see that some of the code for this kit is in the works in MSP430Ware.

C:\TI\ccsv5\ccs_base\msp430\MSP430ware_1_30_00_15\grlib\MSP430FR5969_Grlib_Example

Thanks Jason,

 .. but where is the hardware?

Jan

You will be able to make a pin compatible migration from MSP430FR57xx and MSP430FR58xx if you use either of these packages common to both:

38TSSOP
40VQFN

You will have to give this some careful consideration though.  These are different parts.  One is not really a superset of the other.  Consult the data sheets for details on this migration.  For example, the VCORE pin on MSP430FR57xx becomes an I/O pin on MSP430FR58xx.

Hi Jacob,

Is there any plan to release MSP-EXP430FR5739 like development board? I have an application using MSP-EXP430FR5739 + CC3000 but 16K is really limited and I really need more RAM. Is there also plan to port the CC3000 related application code to FR5969? Thanks.

Vincent ZHOU said:

16K is really limited and I really need more RAM.

jan2809 said:

... but, where is the hardware? 

You can now find MSP-EXP430FR5969 at digikey.

Thanks for that update,

There is no official documentation, nothing in the product folder, nothing on TI e-store, but hopefully it will come.

Is the info here http://www.compel.ru/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/MSP430_HW_Tools_Overview.pdf correct?

Is the ne eZFET the promised, new generation emulator?

Regards

Jan

Hi Jason,

I have received the MSP-EXP430FR5969 kit today (Launchpad Evaluation Kit).

There is no LCD inside. Is the 430Boost-Sharp96 a seperate item or part of the kit?

Out of the box demo operation says:

Application 1 .... Tap top-left slider...

The link on the leaflet (www.ti.com/tool/msp-exp430fr5969 is broken (or anavailable)

Can you help?

Regards

Jan

jan2809 said:

Is the 430Boost-Sharp96 a seperate item or part of the kit

Hi Jan,

Could you let me know where you bought this launchpad kit? and are you able to check the  version of the MSP430FR5969?

Based on the http://www.ti.com/lit/er/slaz473c/slaz473c.pdf. the vesion D is very buggy. (Die Revision: Rev D;   TLV Hardware Revision 12h) and hopefully the kit has higher version and most bugs have been corrected. 

Thanks a lot.

Hi,

The attempted order from Digikey was rejected due to export policy (they always do it), so I have the kit from Mouser

http://au.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/MSP-EXP430FR5969/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMstUSIbdhr/%252bb95Gw%252b/Bm3%252b

There is no documentation, so I am not able to do anything with it - I was hoping for something coming with a kit, if not officially available from Ti.

In fact it is only half a kit as there is no display.

Connecting the thing to USB resulted in creating 2 Ports - MSP Application UART1 and MSP Debug Interface.

I fired Hyperterminal and connected to the UART port trying different baud rates, but had no response.

It looks like without the 430BOOST-SHARP96 the kit is doesn't work "out of box" and the LCD is nowhere on the horizon.

Jan

jan2809 said:

The link on the leaflet (www.ti.com/tool/msp-exp430fr5969 is broken (or anavailable)

Can you help?

The MSP-EXP430FR5969 is actually not yet released.  If you have a board now, you have managed to find early access to a kit.  You may need to wait until it is releaesd when booster packs, documentation, code examples and support is available.

jan2809 said:

There is no LCD inside. Is the 430Boost-Sharp96 a seperate item or part of the kit?

It is a separate item.

Thanks Jan, it's not available on Mouser now. Hopefully it will come back very soon (and also the necessary document from Ti)

Hi Jason,

I know it's an unreleased card and normally you don't comment on it. but if possible, could you let me know what version MSP430FR5969 will be used ? The existing rev D is very buggy. Thanks.

Hi Jason,

Is there any progress on MSP-EXP430FR5969?

Some vendors list it now as "obsolete" (http://au.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/MSP-EXP430FR5969/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMstUSIbdhr/%252bb95Gw%252b/Bm3%252b)

Should I still have hope for a software and documentation or put a "mistake" label on the ones I have.

Jan

Hi Jason,

It's been very quiet about the MSP-EXP430FR5969 for a while. Is there a danger of "not RTM "?

After obsoleting the CC2530ZNPmini kit I am looking for a platform to put a radio module on it 

(a CC2530ZNP based boosterpack 620-A2530R24A-LPZ ond similar)

The MSP430Lanchpad doesn't look powerful enough for that, so I was hoping for MSP-EXP430FR5969 to do the job.

Any hints?

Thaks and regards.

Jan

jan2809 said:

It's been very quiet about the MSP-EXP430FR5969 for a while. Is there a danger of "not RTM "?

Stay tuned for more information related to the MSP-EXP430FR5969.  Thank you for your high level of interest.  I share your anticipation for this kit.  The fact that there is any public information about this kit is a bit of a stroke of luck.  TI has been working to help make the customer design experience with these parts smooth when they're released, especially with differentiating technology like FRAM.

This gives you some idea of what Texas Instruments is working on:

Code Composer Studio v5.5.0 release notes said:

New support for: MSP430FR5969 Rev. E - ULP debug feature support

FYI to those on this thread the MSP-EXP430FR5969 is now publicly available.

www.ti.com/tool/msp-exp430fr5969