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LM3914: Temperature Rating

Part Number: LM3914
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LP8555, LP3943

I have an application requiring a low end temperature of -20ºC.  The LM3914 data sheet specifies a low end limit of 0ºC.  What will happen if I use this part down to -20ºC?

  • Hello Larry,

    I do not work in this group but when a IC is operated outside of the rated Recommended Operating Conditions there is no guarantee that it will operate properly. Regardless of how it actually performs at -20C the official recommendation will always be to use a part within the recommend operating range which in this case means that I would recommend looking at other parts.

    Depending on what you voltage requirements have you looked at the LP3943 or the LP8555? These devices are rated down to -40C.
  • How do you use the lp8555 or lp3943 to produce a linear bar graph?  After reviewing these datasheets, these parts do not seem to be comparable except they do something with LEDs.  It's like suggesting someone use a high temperature comparitor for increasing the voltage range of an analog signal.  There is amplification there, but it doesn't quite do the right thing.  Get us some example circuits of the dot and bar graph circuits, and absolutely.  Else, this answer sucks.  If I am wrong, and there is a way of getting this to work without gobs of extra components, that would be really neat.  Please show.  

    most basic configuration of the lm3914, simple bar graph with 5v input, and a measured voltage from 0v-5v which is then displayed as some number of lit LEDs.  Show us this and I would be very happy.  Else, this is just a dead end.  NTE produces some look alike circuits which they don't specify an operating range.  They may do it.  That is the NTE1508.  Not saying you won't may be better than saying that you won't I suppose.  The lp8555 and the lp3943, are specified to -40C which is better, however I don't see how they are anywhere near anything but a complete re-engineering of any circuit which used the lm3914.  That wouldn't necessarily be horrible either if the new circuit was reasonably straight forward, but after reviewing the datasheet, I don't even see anything close to straight forward for getting this to work.  TI please correct if I am wrong.  I would LOVE to see an elegant, clean implementation of even the basic configuration of the lm3914 using either the lp8555 or the lp3943.  What I am seeing is that there is no ADC capability in the lp8555.  It does wonderful things, but not changing and analog signal into a number of LEDs.  Short of connecting a high precision ADC with a microprocessor (almost a requirement as this unit requires either a pwm or a I2C master), and then connecting this to the lp8555.  All the lp8555 does is control the current.  I can do this with resistors in most cases.  The advantage of the lm3914 is a low component count, highly stable implementation of a voltage measurement device output to an array of levels in an open collector configuration which has a configurable current.  If you can use the suggested parts, please point too an example circuit using these parts.  Else, this post would seem to be crazy.  For companies which NEED an lm3914 in a military or industrial range device, are there offerings, and/or if there was a large enough demand, could there be an offering for such.  I am needing something on the order of -55C to 100C.  (Yeah, most LEDs don't lite under those conditions, however LEDs are only one load which is possible to drive and not what I am primarily interested in).

    Thank you for any and all of your help.

  • Hello John,

    Please start a new thread for this question.