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LM3150, noise and ripple injection

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I have been using an LM3150 to convert well-regulated 24VDC down to 12V.  The supply was designed on Web Bench for a max current of 8A, but in reality it rarely exceeds 5A.  I used the circuit mostly as designed by Web Bench, but substituted lower RDSon transistors.

Anyway, the circuit becomes noisy and fails to regulate under light loads (0.1A - 1A).  After reading posts here I decided it must be the ripple injection circuit, read the App note, and guessed that Web Bench had transposed the capacitor values (App Note says AC Coupling cap should be 10x the integrating cap).  Another hint was that the regulator was going into Discontinuous mode, i guess due to too much apparent feedback.  With the capacitor values swapped it works much better, but I still see 1V noise under load.    The frequency of this noise is much lower than the 260KHz switching frequency, so it's not inductor ripple.

Can TI provide any further guidance on tuning the ripple-injection circuit while still maintaining stability?

original circuit (C62 and C65 later swapped):

  • Hi Eric,

    You are correct .The AC coupling cap should be 3 to 4 times larger than the integrator.
    I did the calculation for 75mV desired ripple (As 330pF integrator capacitor 's impedance r should be small compared to the feedback divider impedance at the switching frequency) and got the value of R75=110K ,integrator Cap C2 as 3300pF , Cac=0.01uF

    Can you please change these values and see the performance. Also Please send the switch node as well as output ripple Waveform at the light load .

    Ambreesh Tripathi
  • I'll work on trying those values.  In the meantime, here's a scope trace of both sides of the inductor. Vout ripple is 0.176V, which is OK with me. 

    I don't have the load current here.  it may be >1A.

    The noise lines up with the load - two 20KHz PWM amplifiers, so noise must be due to low Cout and/or slow response time.  The numbers you list above would slow down the response (110K/3300p vs. 232K/330p), no?

  • Hi Eric,

    The COT architecture, in LM3150, has a simple control with no error amplifier and fastest response to load changes . With the suggested ripple injection , the resulting design will be completely free of stability concerns due to large capacitive loads and hence you can add bulk capacitance at the output . Try using 220uF/25V low ESR cap .

    Ambreesh