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Hi,
I'm looking for PT100 frontend analog circuit ICs for -10C to 140C temperature measurements.
Can you suggest on ICs?
Hi Sadashiva,
Q: I'm looking for PT100 frontend analog circuit ICs for -10C to 140C temperature measurements.
There are several approach in designing a precision Pt100 RTD temperature measurement. You may consider a total integrated approach, which all required RTD blocks are integrated in a single IC. Or you may go with a discrete RTD design approach. Based on the above block diagram, you are likely referring to the integrated RTD design approach.
In the integrated IC design approach, please see the attached links. The ADS124S08, ADS1247 related products are supported by DCC-PADC team (the product line is not supported by PRAMPS).
https://static5.arrow.com/pdfs/2013/11/24/3/19/23/744/txn_/manual/slau520.pdf
https://www.ti.com/europe/downloads/2-%203-%204-Wire%20RTD%20Measurement.pdf
If you are interested in the discrete Pt100 RTD design approach, please let us know. For instance, we can use precision current source in REF200 REF102, and we have various Programmable Gain Amplifier (PGA) to support the RTD applications.
Best,
Raymond
Thanks Raymond,
As shown in the block diagram, I'm planning to use MCU's internal ADC in our application. I'm looking for lower-cost (< 2.5 US$) solution for analog front-end circuits (excluding ADC/MCU).
Can you suggest 4-wire PT100 design components for PT100 temperature sensing from -10degC to 140degC
Hi Sadashiva,
I am using American RTD temperature R figure with α = 0.00392. Due to low cost design approach, we are unable to use ADS1247/8 or similar IC.
Enclosed is a low cost Pt100 RTD measurement solution. As you can see, Vout has very narrow range, which means that your ADC has to be high in resolution, and you have to maximize the ADC to utilize its conversion range.
If this approach is not satisfactory, you may consider to adapt 3-wire RTD measurement system (which it can maximize the RTD's output range). But it will require two precision current sources (e.g. REF200). I did not find you 1mA precision current source in the configuration. A cost of precision current source will exceed your current design budget. We may have to design a current source with discrete components in order to meet your requirements.
BTW, what is available supply voltage rails in the RTD design.
Please let me know if this is what you have in mind.
Best,
Raymond
Raymond,
+24V, +5V, +3.3V available in my design. 4-wire measurement needed.
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I got below link on 4-wires PT100.
Can you suggest alternate low-cost parts (LM4140,LMP2011)? Please refer Figure. 1
We’re looking for PT100 sensing of -10degC to 140degC
A precision interface for a Resistance Temperature Detector (RTD) (ti.com)
Hi Sadashiva,
This approach is the same as what I proposed in the previous reply. The red boxed section is an instrumentation amplifier (IA), which is the same as INA317. In fact, INA317 will outperform the discrete IA configuration with LMP2011 or other op amps due to INA317's internal precision resistor matching, and it only cost less than a dollar, see the captured image below.
The blue circled part is 1mA constant current source. I did not suggest one because there are many options. If you want to proceed with the design, I can send you a simulation later.
Best,
Raymond
Thanks Raymond for Prompt response,
Can you suggest alternate part to A1 & VREF ?
Please share simulation file with VREF, A1 & INA317 once it is ready
Hi Sadashiva,
Enclosed is the circuit that is nearly identical to Figure 1 shown above. I do not have LM4140 in pspice model, and I used a std 2.5V voltage source instead. In terms of cost, it will be approx. to what you suggested initially.
Also, you may try the TLV333 Op Amp.
INA317 TLV333 PT100 09222021.TSC
If you have additional questions, please let us know.
Best,
Raymond
Hi Sadashiva,
I am going to close the inquiry for now. If you have additional questions, you may still open the thread or you may ask your FAE to contact us.
Best,
Raymond