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OPA551: Allow to work in saturation mode - for how long? Suggest a saturation circuit detection to power off or does the thermal flag be triggered?

Part Number: OPA551
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TINA-TI, OPA593, OPA462

Hi folks. here I am again with my chronicle pain questions.. Sweat smile

My asking is related to saturation mode/thermal shutdown of this OPAMP

As depicted in my previous post here I use a Howland Current Pump for delivering precise current to a load for a testing facility. I've changed the original OPAMP with OPA551 that delivers more output and has higher output voltage range (+-30V)

Due to the circuitry it won't never deliver more than 30mA to the load, way below the datasheet rated maximum 200mA specs however I will know for sure that it will work with saturated outputs a lot of time.

I explain. The testing facility is designed to stress-test the sensors (the load attached to the output) for months (even years). During this period the load that has an initial impedance of a couple of ohms (400-500) will increase its value until it literally breaks apart (above 1k of resistance the test is considered failed but the test still goes on - reaching Mohms).

Now simulation shows that above 1k of the LOAD the input of both OPAMPs reach their input voltage range limit and OPA551 saturates. Apart from reducing current output is it harmful for the OPAMP to work in such a condition for maybe months? What will happen in internal circuitry? Will such a condition trigger a Thermal flag?

Looking at the datasheet I see no remarks on the Absolute maximum differential voltage rating table applied to the inputs.

I was thinking since in Howland Current Pump the input of both OP-AMPS are held at same voltage in "normal-linear" operation can a circuit be implemented whenever there is an unbalance of the differential voltage to be monitored from an MCU indicating there is saturation?

I am posting the TINA-TI simulation and a picture of linear, saturated and open-circuit (not such a big difference from previous saturated mode) output voltages and current.

Linear Mode:

  

Saturated Mode:

Open Circuit - Broken sensor Mode:

Tina-TI simulation:

HCP_OPA551-Saturated mode.TSC

Best regards and thanks to all.

Stefano

  • Hi Stefano,

    Below is the OPA551's SOA operation for a given load. I post the following images for my reference only. Your application is running at 30mA, which is well within SOA limits. No over-current issues vs. temperature. 

    Back to your Linear Operating Mode. 

    The initial load resistor is 500Ω, and the circuit is driving 30mA, where the voltage across the resistor is 500Ω*30mA = 15V. No issues are found. 

    Near the Saturation Mode,

    The load resistor changed from 500Ω to 3.5kΩ over time, where 3.5kΩ*30mA = 105V. The highest supply rail in your configuration is only +30V, which the circuit is no longer working. 

    For +30V rail, the highest load resistor, RLoad, may be at approx. (30V - 3V)/30mA = 900Ω, which is shown below. The simulation indicated that the circuit will start to have issues when RLoad_C > 874Ω.

    HCP_OPA551-Linear mode 07132022.TSC

    Since the circuit is only sourcing current, you may modify the power rail to single or asymmetrical rail, which it will increase the test range slightly.

    If +60V single supply rail is used, the  the highest load resistor is approx. (60V - 3V)/30mA = 1900Ω, which is shown below. The simulation is shown that the circuit will start to have issues when RLoad_C > 1876Ω.

    HCP_OPA551-Near Saturation 07132022.TSC

    RLoad_C is approaching 1.87kΩ is the highest sensor degradation you may test with OPA551. If you want to go higher, then you may consider OPA593 or OPA462 higher voltage power amplifier. 

    If you monitor VLoadC voltage, you will know when the sensor exceeds its life test. You can simply calculate the RLoadC via VLoadC/30mA in kΩ, or  VLoadC/ILoad. 

    Please let me know if you have additional questions. 

    Best,

    Raymond

     

  • Raymond. Thank You, and sorry for the late reply. You made me discover the feature of sweeping the resistance in order to find the maximum value! Thank You. One step away from ignorance!! :-) So it is not a problem I desume if the OPAMP (inside the current specs) works most of the time with its output saturated.

    Best regards,

  • Hi Stefano,

    Thanks for the feedback!

    I am going to close this inquiry. If you have additional questions, please let us know.

    Best,

    Raymond