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OPA277: There have the glitch when the OPA277 was operated below 2V, What is the cause and How can I solve or avoid this problem?

Part Number: OPA277
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DAC8760

Hello everyone, I encountered the problem of glitch when using OPA277 to power down. For example, it looks like the OPA277 amplifies the glitch because of abnormal power supply when the power supply is blow 2V.

So, what causes the OPA277 to amplify when the power supply is below 2V?

Could you give me some speculations that the OPA 277 output voltage rises?

  • Hi,

    is the OPA277 outputting a voltage during power down which is higher than its supply voltage? In this case the voltage glitch could be delivered by the cap in the feedback loop of OPAmp.

    Can you please post a complete schematic and explain in detail whan can be seen in the scope plot?

    That a normal OPAmp outputs a glitch when powering down is fully normal, because at some point the internal biasing circuitry (constant current sources, aso) stops working and the output voltage is no longer in regulation.

    Kai

  • Thanks for Kai to reply, as follow the last scope: the red line and green line are the VCC and VEE of OPA 277, and the yellow line is the DAC8760 Vout, and the blue line is the Vout of OPA277. We can see a blue glitch when OPA277 was power down,  the results of the two tests show that glitch can be higher or lower than its supply voltage, is this normal?

    And, Could I ask what is the cap in the feedback loop of OPAmp?

  • Hao,

    The minimum operating supply voltage for OPA277 is +/-2V  - see below.  Below +/-2V supply voltage the internal circuitry cannot bias up properly resulting in the op amp operating in the open-loop fashion - this results in the output collapsing against one of the rails - a very normal condition in all op amps.

    The RC in the feedback of the buffer is for low-pass signal filtering, with cut-off frequency of fc=1/(2Pi*R*C).

  • Hi Hao,

    your last scope plot shows that the output voltage glitch is within the supply voltages. Or by other words, the glitch is not exceeding the supply voltages of OPAmp. So this is fully normal.

    If the glitch is unwanted, you can remove it by adding a switch to the output of OPAmp which always opens when the supply voltage falls under a certain level. At the output of switch you will need a pull-down resistor to signal ground.

    Another option is to clamp the output voltage of OPAmp to signal ground by the help of a swicth whenever the supply voltage falls under a certain level. Then a resistor in series to the output of OPAmp will limit the current through the clamping switch. Provided the signal voltage isn't too high, even a simple NPN transistor could be used for the clamping switch. This method can often be seen in CD players and other audio circuits.

    Kai

  • Hi Kai,

    Thank you very much! You have provided some good solutions for this problems. 

    Hao

  • I'll close your inquiry. Good luck.