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LMH2100: VREF value

Part Number: LMH2100

Hi team,

For ADC single-ended input, the ADC acquired voltage value should be VOUT = IDET* RTRANS + VREF. However, the VREF voltage is not told in the datasheet.

Look at the LMH2100 block diagram VREF should be the VREF voltage on the non-inverting input of the output amplifier.

However, in the following electrical table test conditions, VREF=0 and VREF=2.7V are seen.

Looking at the Pin Functions table REF pin type as the output type, it is not clear why the VREF value is not a fixed value. It can be 0V or 2.7 V.

Requesting your kind guidance here 

Best Regards,

Amy Luo

  • Hi Amy,

        In the out swing test, Vref refers to Voltage on Ref pin(not the internal Vref on noninverting pin of out stage). When Vref(Voltage on REF pin) = 0, makes output saturated to positive rail, Vref = 2.7 makes output saturated to negative rail.

    When you use it for ADC single ended input, you should not force 0V/2.7V on REF pin. You need to interface in either of below configurations:

    The low pass output filter config (fig 81)  has the advantage that it preserves the output voltage when the LMH2100 is brought into shutdown. A disadvantage of the low pass output filter is that the series resistor RS limits the output drive capability. This may cause inaccuracies in the voltage read by an ADC when the ADC input impedance is not significantly larger than RS.

    You can float the REF pin/ Give feedback to REF from OUT depending on use case

    Thanks & Regards,

    Hruday

  • Hi Hruday,

    Thank you for your reply.

    For ADC single-ended input, the ADC acquired voltage value is Vout = IDET* RTRANS + VREF. 

    But how should the VREF value be determined when calculating Vout (Vout = IDET* RTRANS + VREF) ? Does the ADC also need to detect the voltage of the REF pin?

    Regards,

    Amy Luo

  • Hi Amy,

        Give a day or two, I will get back to you. I will check internally with the Vref value as it is not mentioned in datasheet.

    Regards,

    Hruday

  • Hi Amy,

        ADC not required to detect the VREF pin.

    I think internal Vref = ~0.3V from below table.

    (Vout = IDET* RTRANS + VREF) is given in datasheet to explain the output stage and that equation may not help to estimate Vout as Idet is still unknown.

    You need to estimate Vout as below:

         Vout =  Kslope(Pin - Pintercept) .

    so estimate Vout based on Input power, Kslope and Pintercept.

    I can support you better if you can elaborate your application.

    Regards,

    Hruday

  • Hi Hruday,

    Thanks for your information, but I don't understand a bit. If the output needs to be calculated according to the formula

    Vout = Kslope(Pin - Pintercept) ,

    then the Vout of the ADC single-ended input measurement and the Vout of the ADC differential input measurement differ by one Vref. Which Vout should be used to calculate the Pin by substituting the formula Vout = Kslope(Pin - Pintercept) ? Also, how the Kslope and Pintercept values are determined

    Thanks,

    Amy

  • Hello Amy,

          Kslope, Pintercept are mentioned in the datasheet for different operating frequencies as below, you can use them to estimate Vout. You need to use Vout of the ADC single-ended input measurement with above formula.

     

    Regards,

    Hruday