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AMC3301: AMC3301 with additional buffer frontend for reduced input bias currents

Part Number: AMC3301
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: AMC3330, AMC1300, AMC1200

Because of its capability of galvanic isolation, I wanted to use AMC3301 in a design for isolated shunt measurement.

However, I have to support two measurement ranges which should be facilitated by switching between two very different values of shunt resistors (one range would use a small mOhm shunt, the second range a rather high shunt resitor value in the range on hundreds of ohms.

Now, I found that the bias current of AMC3301 is very high which leads to a high offset voltage for the range using the high-valued shunt resistor. That leads to the necessity of calibrating offset out which would be fine when just done once but acutally If I switch between the shunts, I would of course have to do a calibration anytime I switch between ranges which is very user unfriendly. The dirty solution would be to duplicate the amplifier part and select the proper frontend but that is unfeasible because of the high price of the AMC parts.

So I checked the AMC3330. There is no free lunch, and the AMC3330 has very small input bias current which solves the problem using high-ohm shunt resistor but is a bad solution for small shunt resistances because the offset error of the AMC which dominates in this case.

Which made me think of how I could solve the problem of the high input bias currents of the AMC3301. I may overlook something obvious but how about placing a high-impedance In-Amp just before the AMC input. That would allow "buffering" of the shunt voltage? I am aware that I may loose some benefits of the AMC, but at the moment I do not see a better solution. Of course, selection of the "pre-amp" may be tricky and I would have to provide supply for the buffer amplifier which I gues cannot be provided my the AMC´s integrated DC/DC so I may have to switch to AMC1300 or AMC1200 (reinforced isolation is not required).

What do you think about this approach?

  • Hi fpgr,

    It sounds like you have thought your options through. May I ask what your application is that you want to measure two ranges?

    I would think if you had two measurement ranges you want to monitor, you would use two amplifiers. I understand you do not prefer this solution because of cost, but do you not have to monitor the two ranges synchronously? 

    Considering the solutions you mentioned, I think including an In-Amp could work, but I do not have information on how this would affect the AMC parts. However, if you are considering switching to the AMC1300 or AMC1200 and believe these could meet your specifications, why not use two of these? Two of these parts should cost less than one AMC3301 + In-Amp.

    Please let me know what you think and what you decide to use.

    Best regards,

    Eva

  • Dear Eva!

    May I ask what your application is that you want to measure two ranges?

    I see I was unspecific in this concern. Indeed, it is NOT necessary to measure both ranges simultaneously - instead we strive for a device where the user may select between the two ranges. To keep the resolution acceptable we see no other way of switching between two shunt resistor values. We are fine with that approach and think we have identified a mechanical switch that has acceptable low ON-resistance. 

    It seems that the approach I outined above, i.e. staying with the AMC3301 and using an IN-Amp as a low bias current "frontend" to the AMC3301 could be the most straightforward way. We would appreciate some expert feedback from your side regarding problems with that proposal we might not think of.

  • Hi fpgr,

    Okay, I am glad you found a solution that will work for your application.

    The main consideration I could think of is that the AMC3301 is optimized for direct connection to a low-impedance shunt resistor or voltage source. So, if you add high-impedance in-amp, this could cause offset or gain errors that you'd need to calibrate out of your final system. 

    Please let us know if you have any more questions as you work on your design!

    Best regards,

    Eva