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OPA564-Q1: help needed to identify an opamp meeting all criteria

Part Number: OPA564-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: OPA561

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HI,

I am looking for an opamp with below specififcations:

1. ambient temp : -40 + 125C
2. output current >600mA
3. ripple expected on input voltage : 4MHz minimum 
4. Mounting type: Surface mount
5. supply voltages available in my design : +/-2.5V, +/-5V (also have a provision to supply externally but voltage should not be higher than 15V)

It will be used to build an unity gain amplifier.

Thanks,

Shubhangi

  • Hi Shubhangi,

    It looks like you found the ideal device in your previous post, OPA564-Q1 is likely the best option here. 

    Note, since the BW is just 17MHz, you may find that you have some inaccuracies in buffering a faster AC signal due to the device running low on loop gain.

    Best,

    Jacob

  • Hello Jacob,

    Thank you for your response.

    can you suggest another similar part with higher -3dB BW?

    Thanks,
    Shubhangi

  • also there is a non-AEC-Q version OPA561PWP which can support slightly higher slew rate. WIll this be a better fit than OPA564AQDWPRQ1 ?

  • There is some ambiguity about OPA561PWP part's temp rating: Digikey website/datasheet shows -40 to 125C, while TI website/datasheet shows 0 to 125C. Which one is correct?

    Digikey datasheet link: //mm.digikey.com/Volume0/opasdata/d220001/medias/docus/1166/OPA561.pdf

    TI datasheet link : www.ti.com/.../opa561.pdf

  • Hi Shubhangi,

    Yes OPA561 is a similar device in this family of high BW power amps. This device could be a better fit due to the higher slew rate 

    OPA561:

    OPA564Q1

    You are correct on the device ratings, we say 0 to 125C recommended. This is a device from over 20 years ago, so the expectations for industrial temp grade were different. We picked 0 to 125C but as you can see in the datasheet, we still tested some parameters down to -65C:

    To put simply, I have very high confidence that this device will operate below 0C.

    We unfortunately do not specify a minimum abs max junction temperature, but you can use the storage temp as a reference for what this number would likely be:

    Please let me know if you have any questions.

    Best,

    Jacob

  • Hi Jacob,

    Thanks for the details.

    I just got information that sine wave frequency will be 10MHz instead of 4MHz. How does that affect?

    Thanks,
    Shubhangi

  • Hi Shubhangi,

    10MHz is pretty fast, and we will now potentially run into issues with a lack of loop gain. Loop gain helps the amplifier create accurate voltages on the output of the amplifier. 

    If we were to run at 10MHz, there is a high likelihood that that the -3dB point will be so close that we see slight attenuation of the output signal. In other words, if I want to output 1Vpp at 10MHz, I might actually output .8Vpp.

    This is further complicated by the challenge in that some devices will have more or less than 17MHz in BW. This means your attenuation factor will potentially change over temperature and process variation. 

    What voltage level accuracy do we need here? 

    Is it common to see this system operate at 10MHz?

    Thanks,

    Jacob

  • Hello Jacob,

    "Is it common to see this system operate at 10MHz?"

    -->Please let me confirm this again. I know for sure 4MHz is a common case. Let me confirm and get back to you how common is 10MHz.

    Meanwhile , can you please continue this discussion over email?

    Thanks,
    Shubhangi

  • Hi Shubhangi,

    Do we need email? If this needs to be private, you can request friendship over E2E and we can talk separate from this thread. 

    Is this a solution?

    Thanks,

    Jacob

  • Hi Jacob,

    While I am trying to find out whether 10MHz is a must condition , can you please let me know whether there is  EVB available for these 2 parts - OPA564-Q1 and OPA561? I need to have a look at schematic. Also we may need to order an EVB first.

    Thanks,

    Shubhangi

  • Hello Jacob,

    One more thing, the datasheet does show voltage requirements to V+ PWR and V- PWR pins. Should they be connected to V+ and V- respectively?

    Thanks,
    Shubhangi

  • Hi Shubhangi,

    One more thing, the datasheet does show voltage requirements to V+ PWR and V- PWR pins. Should they be connected to V+ and V- respectively?

     

    Yes, this device has separate supplies for the output stage and the input stage. 

    Most customers connect these resources together, but there are some customers who like to modulate the output supply voltage to improve efficiency.

    While I am trying to find out whether 10MHz is a must condition , can you please let me know whether there is  EVB available for these 2 parts - OPA564-Q1 and OPA561? I need to have a look at schematic. Also we may need to order an EVB first.

    Due to the age of this device, we unfortunately do not have an EVM available. This device can be put on a standard 20 pin HTSSOP footprint and air wired if needed. 

    Thansk,

    Jacob

  • Hi , I have sent messages in 1:1 chat. Please check.

  • Hey Shubhangi,

    Just responded over direct message. 

    Please let me know if you have any questions.

    Best,

    Jacob