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INA271: Negative differential Input

Part Number: INA271


Hi,

When negative differential voltage is inputted, is phase reversal occurred?

Best Regards,

Kuramochi

  • Hello Kuramochi

    Thanks for reaching out on our forum.  I believe that if you are monitoring the current through an inverter, a negative differential voltage would be from back EMF.  Each inductor will want to maintain the current that runs through it and will experience a slow decay from whatever max value that was passed through it.

    Phase reversal corresponds to change in the order of the phases.  In the above diagram waveform B lags A by 120ᵒ and C lags B by 120ᵒ.  In phase refersal A would lag B by 120ᵒ and C would lag A by 120ᵒ.

  • Patrik-san,

    I'm sorry for uncertain question.

    I think that INA271 can't sense negative difference input voltage as below.

    I suppose that output keeps GND level during negative input voltage.

    Recent OPAmp include function to prevent phase reversal.

    Does INA271 have this function?

    And please let me know if there is any inconvenience for negative input voltage.

    Best Regards,

    Kuramochi

  • Hello Kuramochi,

    Sorry I misunderstood your first post.  This is a unidirectional device and therefore it will only measure current when IN+ is at a higher potential than IN-.  Despite it only functioning for forward current, the device can survive reverse current, with absolute max for (VIN+) – (VIN–) = -18V.  If you want to measure current in both directions, you need to search for bidirectional devices on ti.com.

  • This is not an answer for my question.
    Can phase reversal occur during negative difference input voltage?
  • Hello Kuramochi,

    I presume that your meaning of phase reversal is like the diagram below.  If not, you will need to provide a diagram of a normal phase versus a reversed phase.  If your meaning matches the diagram below, then this device will not invert the output as long as you are operating within the bandwidth of the part.  There will be some delay though in how quick the device will follow the input.  If you provide a step input into the device, you can use the slew rate specification to determine how long it will take for the output to catch-up with the input.  Alternatively if you look at the Gain plot in the datasheet, the device has a little over a 20dB drop per decade, which would indicate that there is a second pole much higher in frequency.  So if your signal is in the 10MHz range then there might be a phase reversal.  However, your output signal will likely be extremely attenuated at that point.

  • Patrik-san,

    Thank you for your quick response.

    I show phase reversal picture below.

    This phenomenon occur while output voltage is out of range.

    Best Regards,

    Kuramochi

  • Hello Kuramochi,

    Our device output should not rise above ground if the current is reversed and I did a test to confirm.  My setup was as below and the output stayed at 0V despite the differential across IN+ and IN- being increased while  the polarity was reversed.

  • Patrick-san,

    Thank you for your kind support!!
    I understood.

    Best Regards,
    Kuramochi