Part Number: OPA857
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1.The signal ulse width is 3ns, current is 10nA.Can I use OPA857?
2.Datasheet figure 13.Can you explain what this picture means?
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Hi Hank,
the OPA857 is no simple OPAmp, but a very special TIA:
The +input of internal OPAmp is biased at 1.83V. The feedback path of OPAmp makes that the -input of OPAmp sits at the same voltage. So, if no input current is flowing into the "IN" pin, the output "OUT" will also emit 1.83V. Output "OUTN" emits 1.83V as well.
Now, the special of OPA857: The chip only accepts input currents flowing INTO the "IN" pin. Because of this, the output "OUT" can only emit voltages equal and below 1.83V! Concretely spoken, the output "OUT" can only swing between 0.6V and 1.83V. That's exactly what the blue curve of figure 13 is showing.
Kai
Input signal:20nA-20mA, 10ns.It is the conversion of light signals into electrical signals
The TIA output voltage we designed is ±1V,so the gain is 2500.
What do you recommend
Hey Hank,
So with an input range of around 20mA and an output range of 2V, it seems like you only need a transimpedance gain of about 100-Ohms. Is this correct? Also, if you could provide the input capacitance of your photodiode, id be better able to recommend you the right part.
Best,
Hasan Babiker
Hi Hasan
Input range of around 20nA~20mA,output range of ±1V
Input capacitance of photodiode:0.36pF
Thanks
Hi Hank,
I think the OPA857 is not fast enough to handle big signal currents, as Hasan already mentioned.
From the performance of a 10MHz signal with 20mA amplitude you would choose a 250R feedback resistance:
This will properly work with small signals, even at 100MHz:
But with a signal of 2mA amplitude problems start:
And with a 20mA signal the OPA857 collapses:
Kai
Hey Hank,
Sorry about the delay, I trying to achieve a solution using the OPA859 but the slew rate of the device may also be too low for your needs. Do you know the rise and fall times of your 3ns pulses?
Best,
Hasan Babiker
Hey Hank,
So with the specs provided, the OPA859 would probably be your best choice. I have attached a schematic below where you can see the recommended circuit, and see if it will meet your requirements. Because of the very fast pulses of your design, there will be a little bit of ringing at the output peaks, however, the OPA859 should be able to meet your bandwidth requirements. You can see this in the picture shown below, cursors a and b are set to 1V and -1V respectively:
If you would like to achieve a differential output, figure 57 of the OPA859 datasheet uses the following configuration:
You can find more details of this circuit on page 21 of the datasheet. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to help.
Best,
Hasan Babiker
Hi Hank,
the TINA-TI files are for you! Go into the simulation and change the values to your needs:
Kai