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LMX2594: Improving the phase noise response?

Part Number: LMX2594

Hello.  

I am hoping that anyone from the LMX team can answer our inquiry.

We had 2 questions about improving the phase noise of the LMX2594.

This is our setup of the phase lock loop:

  1. The reference frequency for the LMX2594 is 125MHz. I want to use the LMX2594’s low noise doubler to improve the PLL noise, so the PD frequency will be 250MHz.
  2. The denominator is fixed at 2^32-3 =  4,294,967,293 (no matter doubler enabled or disabled ), so that it is not dividable by 2 or 3 to avoid fractional spur.
  3. We use the LMX2594’s VCO continuously from 7500MHz to 15000MHz to achieve continuous frequency coverage.

 

Below is an excel table of the N-divider setting at the various output frequencies that we are using (VCO frequency, PD frequency is at 250MHz, and the corresponding N divider value).

If we use MASH_ORDER = 2, due to the Minimum N limitation shown in TABLE 2 of the DATASHEET, only VCO range from 8000-15000MHz that is listed in our excel table below IS USEABLE. This is no problem since we only lose a small portion of the VCO coverage from 7500MHz to 8000MHz.

Also, I am not concerned about the PLL integer boundary spur since there exists another reference oscillator slightly different than 125MHz to use if necessary to avoid the integer boundary spur.

 

1st question: For a setup where the DOUBLER is ENABLED (PD 250MHz), the DENOMINATOR of 2^32-3 =  4,294,967,293 is used, and MASH_ORDER is set to 2, will there be PLL spur degradation as compared to a setup where the DOUBLER is DISABLED (PD 125MHz), and the MASH ORDER is set to 4? Our current LMX setup does not use the doubler, and always uses MASH_ORDER =4 to avoid PLL spurs. I am very interested to use the doubler along with MASH_Order = 2. While using our current test bed, we had tried a couple of VCO frequencies with the doubler enabled and Mash_order set to 2, and we did see an improved PLL phase noise.  However due to limitations in our test setup, we are not able to investigate the PLL spurs across the full frequency range as depicted in the excel table listed below when using the lower MASH_ORDER of 2.  Do you have any idea what is expected in terms of the PLL Spur degradation across our range of operation?  Does the Spur degration get worst by using the doubler in combination with Mash_order =2?

 

2nd question: We also want to possibly use MASH_ORDER = 3, but we are limited by the Minimum N divider restrictions as shown in TABLE 2 of the DATASHEET.  Is there a more detailed explanation of the Minimum N divider rule based on VCO frequency range? Is there any way to loosen this rule for the Minimum N divider value when setting MASH_ORDER to 3?

 

VCO FREQ (MHZ) PD FREQ (MHZ) N DIV
7500 250 30
8000 250 32
8500 250 34
9000 250 36
9500 250 38
10000 250 40
10500 250 42
11000 250 44
11500 250 46
12000 250 48
12500 250 50
13000 250 52
13500 250 54
14000 250 56
14500 250 58
15000 250 60

Any response to the 2 questions above will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

  • Hi Layne,

    There are two benefits of using higher fpd. (1) N divider could be smaller and as a result, PLL noise is lower. (2) a wider loop bandwidth is possible. Again as loop bandwidth gets wider, in-band noise will be smaller.

    Fractional spurs are due to the pattern that generates the fractional N value. Various order of the delta sigma modulator use different pattern. In general, higher order modulator returns lower spurs but poor phase noise. 

    Spurs frequencies are predictable and are related to the fpd. If you double fpd or reduce it by a half, you will more or less get the same spurs frequencies, but spurs level may be different. 

    Min. N divider values depend on the structure of the N-divider. N-divider is not a single counter (e.g. R-divider), it contains multiple building blocks, that's why there exist a min. N-divider value. Delta sigma modulator uses several N-divider values to generate the fractional N value. Higher order modulator uses more different N values. As a result, the min. N-divider is bigger at higher order modulator.

    You can use PLL Sim to estimate spurs and phase noise performance at different frequencies and configurations. User's guide of the tool is available in the Help menu.

  • Hi Noel

    Yes we are well aware of these general rules of using the LMX2594 using the simulator.  What we are asking is more specific interms of operation of the LMX2594 when the MASH order is applied along with N-divider.  It seems as though the simulator was created with a specific algorithm.  We want to know that algorithm because the literature in the datasheet does not follow the simulator and the literature doesnt answer the question of WHY. 

    Please take a look at my questions again.  we are not asking for simple rules as we are far into using the LMX2594.  we are looking for a more detailed explanations in how the MASH Order affects the spurs and how it correlates with the minimum N-divider.  Because our current test set up does not allow us to inspect every frequency across 7500MHz to 15000MHz which is our goal, we are hoping you guys can give us an more in depth explanation of the spur degration across this bandwidth that we should expect to see.

  • Thanks all.  I will be closing this topic as Dean has responded to our concerns.