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Questions Regarding Clock Buffer Chip: CDCLVC1104

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Hi,

I have the 1:4 Clock Buffer chip: CDCLVC1104. The questions I have are as below:

1) What kind of input signal (pin 1) does this buffer chip accepts i.e.: Sinusoidal, pulse or both ? 

2) Does the input signal has a upper power bound (max. power input signal can have on pin 1) ?

3) What voltage signal shall I use for enable pin for the chip (pin2) ?

4) Datasheet claims fmax=250 MHz at 3.3 V. But I get a clean sine output (when input is a sine wave) for higher frequencies than this fmax. Matter of fact when I input the lower frequencies (i.e. 40 MHz) the output signal is distorted.

link to find the CDCLVC1104 datasheet: http://www.ti.com/product/cdclvc1104

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Valay Shah

  • Hi Valay,

    Answers to your questions:

    1) It can be any input signal that meets the VIL (max) and VIH (min), Min input pulse width spec, and Min input slew rate in the recommended operating conditions table.  The additive jitter of the buffer chip is lowest when the input slew rate is maximized.

    2) VIN (max) is VDD + 0.5V per the Abs Max Rating.

    3) You can drive the output enable pin to VDD (high state) using a LVCMOS/LVTTL driver, or else pull it up to VDD through a weak resistor.

    4) Do you have a scope plot of the output waveform distortion? 

    Regards,
    Alan

  • Hi Alan,

    Thank for your reply.

    Kindly find attached the input and output plots as observed in a DSO scope.

    Fig. 1: Input to the buffer circuit on pin1. Chip is enabled by applying 3.3V to the enable pin (pin2).

    Fig 2: Output of the buffer circuit on channel 1 with channels 2,3 and 4 open.

    Thank you.

    Valay Shah

  • Hi Alan,

    In case of the sine wave of 300 MHz the output is an undistorted replica of the input. Kindly see the attached input and output waveforms for this case (fig. 1).

    But again when I feed the sine wave of 40 MHz, some distortion is seen in the output (fig. 2).

    Fig. 1: Buffer circuit channel 1 output when the input signal is 300 MHz (input on pin1).

    Fig. 2: Buffer circuit channel 1 output when the input signal is 40 MHz (input on pin1).

    Kindly let me know if I am missing on something.

    Thank you.

    Valay Shah

  • Can you pls send scope screenshots of the clock signal at the device input pin?

    Regards,

    Alan

  • What are the high and low DC levels of the pulse signal at the device input pin?  The swing appears too small at less than 500 mVpp.  Make sure you meet the input level specs per my earlier reply.

    Regards,

    Alan

  • Hi Alan,

    Below are the screenshots of the clock input signal on pin1 as well as on the SMA connector. Here I have amplified the input clock signal. They do look distorted.

    Fig 6: Screenshot of the board with 1:4 buffer chip and probe setup. Position 1 and 2 (numbers in red) are the two positions I will be probing to check the input clock signal.

    Fig. 7: Screenshot of the clock buffer input signal at position 1 of fig. 6 (i.e.: at the SMA connector).

    Fig. 8: Screenshot of the clock input signal at pin 1 of the 1:4 buffer chip (i.e.: at Position 2 of fig. 6).

    Thank you.

    Valay Shah

  • Valay,

    Yes, these input waveforms will be problematic.  I'm not sure what you're using to drive the device and what are the transmission line characteristics, so hopefully you can figure out how to improve the input signal integrity.

    Regards,
    Alan

  • Hi Alan,

    As you suggested I did amplified the input clock signal in order to comply with the min input signal specs (which I still have the doubt). Does this levels has to comply with the datasheet numbers as shown below?

    Fig. 9: Screenshot of datasheet with input signal specifications.

    1)  Does the above table mean that lower level of my clock input has to be VIL=1.05 V and the upper level VIH=2.25V ?

    2) Or do I need to only worry about the voltage swing ? In the new measurements I am using Voltage swing of ~ 800 mV as shown in fig 7 and 8 (in previous thread) but still there is a distortion in the output signal.

    3) My input clock signal is two sided (i.e.: positive and negative). Do this chip accept only one sided signal (only positive) ?

    4) What is the suggested input impedance on the pin 1 ? 

    Thank you.

    Valay Shah

  • Hi Valay,

    Here are answers to your questions:

    1) Yes, the input should swing above the Min VIH level and below the Max VIL level.

    2) See answer 1) above.  800 mV is not enough, and also the swing seems to be roughly centered about 0V.  The signal should be centered around the Vdd/2 (Vth, input threshold level)

    3) Single ended input only

    4) Input impedance is >100kohm.

    Regards,
    Alan