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replacements for SY89846UMG

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LMK00306, CDCLVP1208, LMK00725, LMK00304

Hi,

We are considering replacements for SY89846UMG. It has isolation not to interfere each clock.

Is there 2:1 differential input multiplexer with Fail-Safe input protection ?

Best Regards,

Kato

  • You can consider LMK00725 or LMK00306 or CDCLVP1208.

    Alan

  • Alan - san,

    Thank you for the information.

    Does LMK0030x have isolation not to interfere each input clock ? Customer is concerned that the interference generate any jitter.

    Best Regards,

    Kato

  • Yes, input MUX isolation spec is in the datasheet.  It is good isolation performance since the 2 differential inputs are located on opposite sides of the chip.

    Regards,

    Alan

  • Hi Alan - san,

    Thank you for the reply. Please let me know the Mux Isolation spec for LMK00304 in more detail.

    What do the conditions, foffset>50kHz, Pclkinx=0dBm mean ? Could you change the Mux Isolation spec to crosstalk-induced jitter just like SY89846U ?

    Best Regards,

    Kato

  • Foffset is the offset frequency between the selected input (victim) and the non-selected input (aggressor).  For example, if Fclkin0 = 100 MHz, then Fclkin1 = 100 MHz +/- 50 kHz (or greater).  We needed offset to be >50 kHz so the crosstalk sideband spur power level due to the aggressor input is clearly seen above the noise skirt of the measured fundamental output signal for the selected input. 

    PclkinX is the reference input power levels used for the aggressor and victim inputs (both 0 dBm ).  If the aggressor input power level is increased relative to the 0 dBm reference, then the ISOmux spec should increase (get worse) by the same amount in dB.  For example, for CLKin0 = 100 MHz, 0 dBm (victim) and CLKin1 = 101 MHz, +2 dBm (aggressor), the input mux isolation would become -82 dBc (=-84 dBc typ spec + 2 dB aggressor power above 0 dBm reference levels).

    To translate the ISOmux spec (i.e. phase spur power level, in dBc, induced by input mux crosstalk) to the equivalent "Crosstalk-Induced Jitter" spec, you can use the same formula as phase spur level induced by power supply noise (referred to as "PSRR" in the datasheet).

    Deterministic Jitter (peak-to-peak) due to periodic noise signal:

    DJ p-p = 2 * 10^(-|dBc|/20) / (pi * Fclk), where dBc is a single-sideband spur power level relative to carrier measured at the output induced by a single fundamental noise signal like power supply ripple or input mux crosstalk.

    DJ p-p can be expressed as RMS value as shown below.

    DJ rms = DJ p-p / (2 * sqrt(2))

    SAMPLE CALCULATION:

    For the ISOmux spec = -84 dBc @ Fclkin=100 MHz, Foffset>50kHz, Pclkin=0dBm conditions, this results in DJ = 0.4 ps p-p, or DJ = 0.14 ps rms.

    Regards,
    Alan

  • Hi Alan - san,

    Thank you for the detailed explanation. I was very understanding. By the way, could you provide the Mux Isolation evaluation results ? If possible, could you provide the data of fclkin=622.08MHz(LVPECL) for LMK00304 ?

    Best Regards,

    Kato

  • I suggest using the specs at 500 MHz and 1000 MHz conditions to interpolate the spec at 622 MHz.  It should get you close enough.

    Alan

  • Hi Alan - san,

    Thank you for the reply.Would you please provide the phase noise data measured with a spectrum analyzer ?

    Best Regards,

    Kato