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DP83822I: Specification of external oscillator(25MHz)

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Part Number: DP83822I
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DP83848T,

Hi,

We have an issue with the new PHY DP83822I in combination with the older DP83848T PHY. The PHYs try to establish a 100MBit connection, set the link LED for a short time and clear it immediately.
After some investigations we located the issue on the product with the DP83848 PHY. The clock source of the PHY comes from a MEMS oscillator and if we change this MEMS to an crystal oscillator the communication between the two PHYs works fine.

1.) We have read the PHY registers of both PHYs

DP83848:
The PHYSTS register shows a "False Carrier Sense Latch" Bit.

The counter in the FCSCG register (0x14) counts up and the link bit isn't active.

DP83822I:
ANER and ANLPAR Bist are sometimes set.
The 100Base-T4 is shown but never strapped nor set by the register.
FLDS register: Signal/Energy loss and SNR Level Bits are set.

2.) RX_ERR on DP83822I
We have alos done some measurements on the RX_ERR signal on the PHY. During powerup and after reset high the RX_ERR signal is tristate and pulled up on the board. After about 1 to 1.5 seconds the RX_ERR signal is driven high by the PHY for about 3-4 clocks. After that the RX_ERR signal is driven low and never shows an error. Does this signal show an erro or an special powerup sequence? The datasheet has no setailed description of this signal.

MEMs datasheet (SI501FCA48M0000DAGR): http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/368/Si501-2-3-276739.pdf

  • Hi,

    DP83848 datasheet defines the XI Oscillator spec of 800 ps ( for both long and short term jitter). Can you please check whether the MEMS oscillator meets these specifications.

    As you know Transmitter Output follows the jitter on the Clock reference, beyond the spec numbers, their is strong possibility of DP83848 Transmitter violating the IEEE Transmitter Output specifications which intern may be causing the link-up issues on DP83822.

    Other way to check would be to run the IEEE Transmitter Compliance Test on DP83848 product with both MEMS and XTAL Oscillator.

    You may want to refer to following application note on DP83848 jitter tolerance measurements.

    www.ti.com/.../snla091b.pdf



    Regards,
    Geet