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Robert Adsett

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Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TM4C1231H6PGE

There seems to be a site error currently. If I browse to the overview

then click on the TM4C12x link I get the following

Various paths end up with variation on 404 pages.

Robert

over 7 years ago

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago

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Hello Robert,

The ti.com website has been updated recently (as in, *very* recently), so you may need to clear out your browser cache to get the new listing to show up correctly.

And since I'm sure it won't be clear right off the bat and I know the topic will be raised shortly, you'll find TM4C is now located under this page: www.ti.com/.../overview.html

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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TM4Cs show up in the overview of that link but not the product list.

Robert

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Hi Robert,

I'll check with the web team, but if I understood the changes correctly, that may just be how it is setup to be displayed. Stay tuned. (Also please don't shoot the messenger...)

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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The overview lists 82 parts as being covered, the product tab shows only 21.

Robert

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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Ask them how I'm supposed to find the parts if that's the case.

Robert

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Hello Robert,

Do you mean www.ti.com/.../products.html ?

There is a "Load More" option at the bottom of the list which should list out all 82 parts if no filters are used to reduce the listings.

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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That's the page I'm referring to. It says 21 total parts at the top and there is no load more at the bottom. It allows selection of subsets of CC430 and other microcontrollers. The other (9) microcontrollers are similarly CC prefixed. Bypassing the cache has no effect.

Robert

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Clicking reset filters (in case it defaulted some on) also has no effect.

Robert

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Hmm, I'm not entirely sure why that is occurring for you, this is the view I got the first time I went to the page:

Could you check with any other browsers?

Which browser are you using? I'll ask some others to check and see if they have the same issue...

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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That's not what I see Ralph

Already checked with both IE and Firefox

Robert

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Same with edge and firefox on a separate computer

Robert

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Huh... some internet voodoo is going on...

I had a number of friends check with various combos of Chrome, Firefox, and IE, including a couple who are not in the office and thus not on the TI network but their own WiFi's... everyone so far as has 82 parts show up.

To say I am stumped would be an understatement.

Can you please submit Website Feedback via our feedback form? That's the only thing I can think of at this point to at least bring some attention to it and see if you stumbled into some weird isolated case: https://www.ti.com/secext/docs/webform/webform.tsp

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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Well, that just takes me to this

And the post editor didn't like the file name of the screen capture and wouldn't tell me why.

Robert

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Humm... Were you logged in when clicking the link?

I got it from this site (over/under on this link working for you?): which I reached by going to Support & Training (main menu bar) -> Feedback -> "Report a website issue".

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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That link works right up to the point where I click on

www.ti.com/.../webform.tsp

Then I get what I posted earlier. Tried the webform link in firefox with the same results (did not try following the trail).

Followed the trail from here so already logged in. I wasn't logged in on Firefox so it first asked me to sign in and then took me to the webpage not found.

It's perfectly consistent, I cannot report a web error since the error reporting is broken as well. I suspect the same root cause.

Robert

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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It works this morning Ralph. There is one rather gaping hole in the selection filter though (at least I consider it such). You cannot filter based on CAN peripheral availability (0,1,2, ...).

Robert

0 cb1_mobile over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Greetings Ralph,

If we are, "Not to shoot the messenger" ... "Who then?"

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Also the A/D support is listed incorrectly for some micros. As a for instance TM4C1231H6PGE lists no ADC support.

Robert

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Hello Robert,

Thanks for pointing these out. Going through the product search a bit, I see a lot of issues with it. Like also no search for USB, or some of the more specialized TM4C129x modules. Furthermore, there are searches for items like FRAM and I2C which don't apply for any processor in the tree.

Looks like there is a lot of work to be done on the new search options...

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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Hey all,

Just a quick update on this, still working on the search feature, it'll be as is for a few more days, but I think it'll end up being a bit better than the former when all is said and done.

I'm going to close this thread for the moment, but when it does roll out, I'll split this thread and re-title it, and get your feedback as outside of TI users.

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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I'll look forward to it. And hopefully you've escaped any serious wounding.

Robert

0 cb1_mobile over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Should it not, "Prove concerning" - that "Vendor's Ralph" - and the others he asked - initially - failed to, "Note this issue?"

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to cb1_mobile

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In my defense, as the vendor, I don't usually need to pick out one of the devices I support to add to an application so I rarely look at the parametric search page. :)

And when I did in helping Robert, I was focused on the Part Numbers and little else.

And the others I asked were given a simple task of 'Tell me how many parts appears". So... GIGO applied I think (plus some were non-engineers)

0 cb1_mobile over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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As you know - you have (well earned) my/firm's respect.
My point then - some "Improved Method" - for "Probing, Examining and DETECTING such issues" is required.

You may rely upon poster Robert "Some of the time" - but NOT, "All of the time!"

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to cb1_mobile

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cb1_mobile said:
My point then - some "Improved Method" - for "Probing, Examining and DETECTING such issues" is required.

It would appear so.

Non-engineers checking an Engineers selection tool. how could that possibly go wrong. Mind you getting engineers to perform this might be a bit of a chore as well.

cb1_mobile said:
You may rely upon poster Robert "Some of the time" - but NOT, "All of the time!"

That I was using it at that point was sheer fortune. Although if it had stayed then at some point someone would have pointed it out. perhaps after many had been chased away. Despite its flaws Digikey's selection tool still ranks in the top spot.

And despite the complaints TI's is still better than some. I was performing a similar exercise on NI's site. As near as I could tell they have no parametric search.

Robert

0 cb1_mobile over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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What complaints? Presentation of "facts & just the facts" (i.e. the obvious need for better (i.e. "some") FLAW DETECTION METHODS (beyond skilled user/specifiers) should be (properly) seen as, "Valued Guidance & User Feedback."

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to cb1_mobile

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cb1_mobile said:

What complaints? Presentation of "facts & just the facts" (i.e. the obvious need for better (i.e. "some") FLAW DETECTION METHODS (beyond skilled user/specifiers) should be (properly) seen as, "Valued Guidance & User Feedback."

How is such presentation not a complaint? Maybe our dialects differ on this point?

Robert

0 cb1_mobile over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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Robert Adsett said:
How is such presentation not a complaint?

Is it not "fair/proper" to have the "Merriam Webster" dictionary referee?

Complaint: noun, 1) an utterance of pain, displeasure etc. 2) a cause for complaining, 3) an ailment, 4) Law - a formal charge.

Thus - as sound was off/muted - NO utterances resulted; "No cause" rather a prescription for fixing; No ailment; and No charges! (court-house service required).

Presentation: noun, 1) a presenting or being presented; 2) something presented, as a theatrical performance, a gift etc.

Strong case may be made that (some) Non-Outsider, Flaw Detection Method WAS "presented." (without pain, displeasure - or (even) ailment!) (I did swear when the mouse fell - landing on my toe!)

Beyond the "law of language" - complaints usually employ a "whine" tone. No such "whine" appeared! Instead - it was (properly) advised that, "Vendor should better - (i.e. somewhat) "Self-Monitor!" In all fairness - such stands as "Valuable Guidance - and Feedback" ... far from "complaint."

0 Ralph Jacobi over 7 years ago in reply to cb1_mobile

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Hi Guys,

As promised, Product Search is fixed. New thread for any feedback on features we missed is here: e2e.ti.com/.../668002

Look forward to your feedback :)

0 cb1_mobile over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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Thanks for this, Ralph. It is "hoped" - that there are (No more) "complaints" from Robert!

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to cb1_mobile

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cb1_mobile said:

Robert Adsett

How is such presentation not a complaint?

Is it not "fair/proper" to have the "Merriam Webster" dictionary referee?

Complaint: noun, 1) an utterance of pain, displeasure etc. 2) a cause for complaining, 3) an ailment, 4) Law - a formal charge.

Definitions 1 and 2 do appear to fit my complaints.

cb1_mobile said:
Beyond the "law of language" - complaints usually employ a "whine" tone. No such "whine" appeared!

And here we do get into dialect.

Robert

0 Robert Adsett over 7 years ago in reply to Ralph Jacobi

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It doesn't appear to have changed not added selections that I can see, just the same that was there after the first update finally went through

Robert

0 cb1_mobile over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Adsett

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And via Chrome - w/in Chicago - we note "just the same (new) view" as does Robert. We must hope that (change) arrives tomorrow...

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