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TPS63050 Buck/Boost - Soft Start Issue

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS63050, TPS63050EVM-679

Hello,

I am having odd behavior (or I do not fully understand) the TPS63050 Soft-Start feature. I do not see what the datasheet is stating.

I am using TPS63050 dev kits (WLCSP and QFN) for verification. I have edited the WLCEP board for adjustment of Vout and soft-start while keeping the QFN DeKit the same:

TPS63050EVM-679 (QFN Flavor, unchanged)

TPS65030EVM-180 (WLCSP Flavor, edited for 4V out, 2msec startup).

I have attached a PDF which describes the situation in detail. But to reiterate:

(1) Soft-start is not so soft, it seems to work for only a few hundred microseconds, and then ir goes back to normal start siwtching currents

(2) voltage on soft-start cap should be ~1.3V, and I do not see this, I see it track with Vin. This is the same on both edited and non-edited EVMs.

(3) Soft-Start capacitor calculation is not accurate (likely b/c the voltage is not matching). My calc is inside the document.

(4) I can see softstart voltage continue to rise above 1.3V (even > 2.6V), and settle much after Vout has settled. So even the timing between SS voltage and Vout do not track together.

Please review the document, and let me know if I am misinterpretating the datasheet. There is no soft-start diagrams in this datasheet, and the wording is poor. The document has plots.

END GOAL  OF THE CIRCUIT:

- Our battery is very small and has some ESR. I wish to use soft-start and Lim0,1 = low, to reduce switching currents and Vout ramp, to reduce the transient switching lows on the battery. These transients are creating a large enough voltage drop to drop out our system pre-maturely. 

VIN: 3.4V, Vout = 4.0V, Iout = 25uA during soft-start, and typical 50mA transient in regulation. 

TPS63050 Support Request.pdf

  • Hi Peter,

    as it is written in datasheet the soft start operation is completed once the voltage at the SS pin has reached 1.3V. It doesn't mean that voltage at the SS pin is 1.3V after completed soft start operation.
    SS pin voltage is slightly lower then Vin voltage because of the internal clamping circuit.

    END GOAL OF THE CIRCUIT: it is not clear to me .

    I think that you would like to increase soft start time and you can do it by increasing value of the SS capacitor up to 10nF.

    Best regards

    Lubomir Fenic
  • Hi Lubomir,

    Please see page 4 of my document in my original post. It's clear the soft-start ends, but then there is still a harsh switching ramp-up to get to the regulation voltage. The soft-start should continue UNTIL the regulation voltage is reached correct? We checked with several times. Essentially the soft-start is a worthless feature if you still get a hard switching ramp-up after the soft-start. The purpose of a soft-start is to prevent harsh transient loading on weaker power sources such as small batteries, solar cells, etc.

    Referring back to my document, page 4, how do I remove the harsh ramp after the soft-start? 

    Replying to your comment on 10nF for SS. I tried this before I wrote this document, and with that value I never actually obtained regulation. The regulator failed and stabilized at 0.57V. 

    - The soft-start calculation doesn't match

    - The post-ramp on page 4 essentially shows SS does not work.

    Perhaps there is a detail I am missing? Please reply asap, as this component is being closely considered for a production board.

    Thanks,

    -Peter

  • Hi Peter,

    current limit during start up phase caused by soft start feature is possible to see in datasheet Figure 32 where inductor current is limited until SS pin is reaching 1.3V.

    There is possibility to remove the harsh ramp after the soft start with external components described in :
    www.ti.com/.../slva553.pdf
    I believe this will be helpful for your application.

    Best regards

    Lubomir Fenic