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LM5104: About bootstrap capacitor

Part Number: LM5104

Hello,

Currently, due to difficulty in supplying ceramic capacitors, my customers are considering replacing them with electrolytic capacitors or conductive polymer capacitors.

Therefore, for the following parts,
Please tell me whether they can replace ceramic capacitors with electrolytic capacitors.
We appreciate your cooperation.

○ Bootstrap capacitor used for LM5104: C_BOOT

LM 5104 Datasheet
www.ti.com/.../lm5104.pdf

The data sheet contains the following description.
"The bootstrap and bias capacitors should be ceramic types with X7R dielectric."


Thank you.

  • Hi Mayumi,

    Thanks for your question on LM5104, Im an apps engineer supporting this device. The datasheet says that the bootstrap and VDD caps should be X7R or low ESR capacitors. Other types of capacitors may be used however X7R is what is recommended. Just be sure the cap is rated at least twice the VDD supply voltage. X7R caps are low ESR so the cap does not heat up too much or experience a large ripple during peak current draws in order to maintain a long lifetime and minimal derating when a DC bias is applied.

    Electrolytic caps have a way of drying out and becoming less conductive so its important to consider the larger ESR giving way to more heat and lower lifetime. The larger ESR can also bring a larger voltage drop that can dip below HB UVLO. This can also hinder the gate driver peak sourcing capability for the highside because this larger ESR. Since electrolytics have inherently more leakage due to a weakness in dielectric we need to consider effects if a larger dutycyle is used to make sure the driver doesnt reach UVLO. This extra leakage current actually accounts for total charge supplied by the bootstrap and can attribute to more gate driver power loss since the bootstrap diode is internal.

    Hope this helps your concerns, please let me know if you have any more questions.

    Thanks,

  • Jeffrey-san,

    Thank you very much for your advice.
    My customers say they will choose capacitors considering your answer.

    Mayumi