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TPS2411: TPS2411 Recommendation for Switchover circuit

Part Number: TPS2411
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM74800-Q1, LM7480-Q1, TPS24740

Hello:

I am interested in using the TPS2411 for power OR-ing our device which must meet a special case. I wanted to ask TI for directions on how to use the TPS2411 for this case (although we are open to other suggestions).

We have an UPS that outputs the power of a DC power supply or a 12V battery - preferring the DC power supply over the battery. The UPS can be put in sleep mode - however when this happens, it cannot turn on again until the user re connects the DC power supply. We have a special case in which we want to start the UPS again without connecting the power supply (for emergency purposes). For this, we need to briefly apply the voltage of the battery into the input of the UPS (where the DC power supply is) in order to turn ithe UPS on. On testing we have determined that the UPS just briefly needs a voltage on the node to turn on. The UPS on worst case scenario can deliver up to 100W - but it wont need to deliver much power when the system is recently turned on.

Because of this, we want to have a power OR that can allow us to apply the DC power supply or the battery voltage when we push a button into the input of the UPS. Our ideal solution would do the following:

When the DC power Supply is present it should always choose this input. DC Power Supply of 14.25V

When the DC Power supply is absent, it should choose the battery voltage Only while a button is pressed! Otherwise all power should be disconnected. Battery voltage: 10V-14V

I wanted to use the TPS2411 since it allows for logical control as well as use dual mosfets to protect power supplies when the selected voltage is the lowest one (as it is in the battery case).

My questions are:

1.) Does TI have a SPICE model for the TPS2411 so we can test the circuit before we implement?

2.) We wanted to use the mosfets Si7137DP. How can we determine the VGS that the system will generate to determine how much is the mosfet switched on?

3.) Do you have a recommended circuit to achieve the previous implementation?

3.) Do you perhaps have any recommendation on how to achieve our goal? Maybe another method comes into mind. (Sadly we cannot modify or change the UPS).

Thank you for your time!

  • Hello Eduardo,

    Based on you requirements, priority power MUX is required with priority to DC power supply rail. AUX power supply is the battery which needs to take over when DC power supply is not available (and enabled by push button).

    Yes TPS2411 can control two back-back MOSFETs required for power MUX, but spice models are not available now.

    We would recommend LM74800-Q1 which is in preview stage and best suited for prioirty power MUX due to its dual gate drive.

    Application note on LM7480-Q1 "https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/slvaes2" discusses priority power MUX application in Design #6.

    Let us know if LM7480-Q1 is suitable for your requiements, spice models are available in the product folder page.

    https://www.ti.com/product/LM7480-Q1#design-development

    Regards,

    Kari.

  • Hi Kari:

    Thank you for your response! The LM7480-Q1 does look interesting - I will do some simulations and see if it works for our application. However, when would the device be available in the market?

    In the case it is not available for us in time, would you have a recommendation with components that TI has and possibly have a spice model?

    Thank you for your time.

    Best Regards,

    Eduardo

  • Hello Eduardo,

    We need to take the device availability over email, could you share your email address.

    Other device which support priority power MUX is TPS24740 which is again like LM74800-Q1, an ORing controller with hot-swap control that can be used for power MUX implementation. 

    Spice models are available.

    Let us know if that works.

    Regards,

    Kari.