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AM69: Power-Down Sequencing when system power is turned off

Part Number: AM69
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: J784S4XEVM, TPS2663

Our customer wants to power-down AM69x by turning-off the system power, i.e. dropping the supply voltage to the VCCA instead of orderly shutdown on PMIC (TPS6594133A). So the recommended power-down sequencing for AM69 may not be met.

As discussed in the thread below, it is very difficult to meet the recommended power-down sequencing by turning-off the system power.

TPS6594-Q1: Shutdown TPS6594133A when system power is turned off

The recommended power-down sequence in the AM69 data sheet specifies the delay times between each power supply ramp-down. In the case of "Isolated MCU and Main Domains Power-Down Sequencing", the delay times are specified as below.

• T0 – MCU_PORz and PORz assert low to put all processor resources in safe state. (0 ms)
• T1 – Main DDR, SRAM Core, and SRAM CPU power domains start ramp-down. (0.5 ms)
• T2 – All core voltages start supply ramp-down. (2.5 ms)
• T3 – All 1.8V voltages start supply ramp-down. (3.0 ms)
• T4 – All 3.3V voltages start supply ramp-down. (3.5 ms)

AM69x Processors, Silicon Revision 1.0 datasheet (Rev. B)
6.10.2.5 Isolated MCU and Main Domains Power- Down Sequencing

Is it required to meet the delay times for power-down sequencing?

Can it be tolerated that all power supplies ramp-down at once (almost simultaneously) by turning-off the system power?

Best regards,

Daisuke

  • Dear TI support team,

    Thank you for your support. Our customer is waiting for your reply.

    Please give me an answer as soon as possible. Your prompt reply would be appreciated.

    Best regards,

    Daisuke

  • Dear TI support team,

    Thank you for your support. Sorry for the many times.

    On both the SK-AM69 and the J784S4XEVM, the system can be shutdown with an orderly shutdown (the recommended power-down sequence) by holding the pushbutton for an extended period of time.

    On the J784S4XEVM, the system power supply can be disconnected by using the slide switch, so the recommended power-down sequence can not be met.

    On custom boards, is it required that the system is always shutdown with the recommended power-down sequence?

    Or can it be tolerated to power off the system by turning off (disconnecting) the system power supply?

    Please give me an answer as soon as possible. Your prompt reply would be appreciated.

    Best regards,

    Daisuke

  • A ”loss of input power event” occurs when the system’s input power is unexpectedly removed. Normally,
    the recommended power-down sequence should be followed and can be accomplished within 1.5-2 ms of
    elapsed time. This is the typical range of elapsed time available following a loss of power event as the VSYS_3V3
    bulk caps discharge towards the PMIC's VCCA Vmin ~ 2.7V.

    If sufficient elapse time is not provided for a full controlled power down sequence, then an “abrupt” power
    down sequence can be supported if all of the following conditions are met as described in the note attached
    to MCU_PORz & PORz signals in the power down seq timing diagram.

    "MCU_PORz and PORz must be asserted low for TΔ1 = 200 us MIN to ensure SoC resources enter into safe state before any voltage
    begins to ramp down."

  • Hi Bill-san,

    Thank you for your reply. Sorry for the late reply.

    Our customer controls nPWRON/ENABLE on the PMIC (TPS6594133A) by tied PGOOD and /FLT on eFuse device (TPS2663) for 12 V system power input.

    For system shutdown, /FLT on the eFuse device (TPS2663) is used and an orderly shutdown is triggered approximately 16us after the 12 V system power input drops below 8.27V, and MCU_PORz and PORz are immediately asserted low.

    The bulk capacitor (330uF) on the output of the eFuse device (TPS2663) seems to delay the falling slew rate by more than a few ms.

    Are there any concerns?

    Best regards,

    Daisuke

  • Hi Bill-san,

    I have an additional question.

    Does the “abrupt” power down sequence affect product lifetime? Does it have a shorter product lifetime than the recommended power down sequence?

    Also, I would appreciate any feedback on my previous post.

    Best regards,

    Daisuke