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CC2530ZDK-ZLL lights to Philips Hue Bridge - any changes

Serge Sozonoff
Prodigy 70 points
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: Z-STACK

Hi,

I have been seeing mixed message about the possiblity of controlling the lights from the CC2530ZDK-ZLL using a Philips Hue bridge. I purchased this dev kit under the impression (maybe wrongly) that I could control the lights using the Hue Bridge. There are some previous posts over a year old saying maybe its possible. Another one talks about changing some source code and it should work etc ...

I just wanted to check if there is a simple answer to this question and if its not possible does anyone know of some LED modules which can be powered using 5v and controlled with the Philips Hue Bridge ?

Kind thanks,

Serge

  • 0
    TI__Genius 9180 points

    Our ZStack-Lighting product is interoperable with the Philips Hue System. However the ZLL specification mandates that a certification key is used during product development and certification. The ZigBee Aliance will give you access to the  ZLL master key once you have ZLL certified the product. Without the master key you will not be able to join the Hue Hub's network. Sometimes the ZLL product manufacturers will send other companies developing ZLL products their devices programmed with the certification key. The certification key is also used during test events, so if you are a ZigBee Alliance member you can also use this as an opportunity to test IOP.

    Another option is to join the Hue bulbs and your control bridge to a HA network and then you do not require the ZLL key. But it is not possible to join the Hue Hub to HA network.

    Regards,

    TC.

  • 0 in reply to TopCat
    Prodigy 70 points

    Hi,

    Thanks for your reply.

    The ZigBee Aliance will give you access to the ZLL master key once you have ZLL certified the product. 

    Not an option for most of us!! I have tried to get the module to pair with a RaspBee from Dresden Electronics but this does not seem to work either.....

    Thanks,

    Serge

  • 0 in reply to Serge Sozonoff
    Prodigy 70 points
    BTW

    processors.wiki.ti.com/.../ZStack-Lighting-1.0.1_FAQ

    Bottom of this page is misleading in that it seem to indicate connection of ZStack with Hue Hub is possible.

    Serge
  • 0 in reply to Serge Sozonoff
    Prodigy 70 points

    Last question then.

    Without having to modify the firmware do the light modules included in the CC2330ZDK-ZZL work with anything other than the included remote control ?

    Have people had success with any ZLL gateways on the market ?

    Does anyone know of another module which can handle a 5v input and power an RGB Led ?

    Kind thanks,

    Serge

  • 0 in reply to Serge Sozonoff
    TI__Genius 9180 points
    Serge,
    We have some partners that have a module based solution that can join a ZLL network and drive LED's. I will follow up with you off line regarding this.

    The only option to connect to a ZLL network is to use the ZLL master key. However you can connect to ZLL devices when they join a HA network with out the ZLL master key. If your ZLL gateway supports joining a HA network then you can interact with it, however as far as I understand the Hue Hub does not allow this. The ZLL Light and Remote that we supply can start a ZLL network using the certification key, or they can join a HA network. We have had the ZLL devices being controlled by many HA Gateways (here is the TI reference HA gateway: www.ti.com/.../CC2531EM-IOT-HOME-GATEWAY-RD). Using this GW you can control TI ZLL Lights or Hue and other ZLL certified Lights, but the Hue Hub will not join this network.

    "I have tried to get the module to pair with a RaspBee from Dresden Electronics but this does not seem to work either.....".
    This should work, make sure the network is open (not sure how to do this on RasBee, but can give guidance for the TI BeagleBone based Gateway), then hold the switch on the Zlight for 4s it should reset and blink 5s later, then hold the button for >10s, it should then try to join a HA network. If it does not work then a packet trace of the issue would help. We have them join the TI HA Gateway all the time, so this is definitely possible.

    I'll take a look at the wiki, sorry for the confusion.

    Regards,
    TC.
  • 0 in reply to TopCat
    Prodigy 45 points
    The masterkey is obviously not the only thing you need to connect to the hue bridge. A CC2530-Board running with Z-Stack-Lightning 1.0.2 sends no DeviceAnnounce and no IeeeAddrReq. A original Philips lamp does this.

    This is the interal communication on uart in the hue bridge (on Testpoint 9)

    Touchlink with CC2530-Board:
    [Log,Info,A_Bridge_Link,Found device 0: L=00:12:4B:00:06:37:A0:9F, rssi=-26]
    [Zdp,ReceivedIeeeAddrRsp,15,S=0x0813.0,0,L=00:12:4B:00:06:37:A0:9F,S=0x0813.0]
    [Link,Touchlink,success,S=0x0813,0xDFB2]

    And touchlink with a Philips bulb
    [Log,Info,A_Bridge_Link,Found device 0: L=00:17:88:01:01:22:6C:58, rssi=-49]
    [Zdp,ReceivedDeviceAnnounce,S=0x000B.0,L=00:17:88:01:01:22:6C:58,14]
    [Zdp,ReceivedIeeeAddrRsp,19,S=0x000B.0,0,L=00:17:88:01:01:22:6C:58,S=0x000B.0]
    [Link,Touchlink,success,S=0x000B,0xDFB2]
    [Zdp,IeeeAddrReq,0,20]
    [Zdp,ReceivedIeeeAddrRsp,20,S=0x000B.0,0,L=00:17:88:01:01:22:6C:58,S

    Has anybody an idea what to do in Z-Stack code?
    Regards
    Andi