TCAN4420: Selection and application issues of chips

Part Number: TCAN4420
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TCAN1044A-Q1,

Tool/software:

 Physical Layer Requirements

1. Communication Rate: 500Kbps.The CAN controller obtains the clock source from an external quartz crystal, and the crystal frequency is an integer multiple of the CAN communication rate:CAN communication rate error: ±0.2%;

2. Node ID uses extended frame.

3. The CAN bus transceiver circuit needs to meet the requirement of not being damaged by contact discharge of +8KV.

4. The CAN bus transceiver circuit needs to meet the requirement of not being damaged by air discharge of ±15KV.

5. The CAN bus transceiver needs to be driven by +5V voltage.

6. The CAN bus transceiver circuit needs to reserve a 120Ω termination resistor, whether it is surface-mounted or not is TBD.

7. A 100V 1s pulse voltage is applied 1000 times between CAN H, CAN L, and GND (power battery), with an interval of 60s between each pulse. The CAN circuit and communication function must not be damaged.

8. If there are nodes with input/output voltages exceeding 24V, the CAN circuit needs to be electrically isolated from the voltage.

9. Transceiver voltage withstand level of 50V or above

key1:Please recommend suitable chips for the above requirements.

key2:Regarding point 8, please provide a detailed explanation on how to achieve electrical isolation between the CAN circuit and the voltage exceeding 24V. Ideally, a reference design or other detailed information would be appreciated. Thank you!

  • Tony,

    Please confirm point #7. This seems to conflict with point #9 and possibly point #8.

    Best,

    Danny

  • Then you ignore point 7 and look at other areas where you are not satisfied or have conflicts. Just explain them, choose a relatively suitable option, and explain the reasons

  • Tony,

    The points you list describe a standard CAN transceiver. Our TCAN1044A-Q1 is our common 8-pin CAN transceiver, capable of ±58V bus fault protection.

    Regarding your question about point 8, I interpret this to mean that there is a mitigated risk of shorts in connectors, cabling, board routing, or misconnection. This is application-dependent, and fortunately is not impacted by your choice of transceiver (aside from package pinout, which is standard in the industry for 8-pin CAN).

    Best,

    Danny

  • Tony,

    As an additional note, the part you selected for this question is TCAN4420, which is a specialty CAN device which is capable of polarity inversion (basically swapping the roles of CANH and CANL pins in case a user connects the CAN bus backwards). This is not the device I'd expect your application needs, as this was not listed as one of your points.

    Best,

    Danny