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SN75LVPE4410: PCIe device not recognized

Part Number: SN75LVPE4410

Tool/software:

Dear TI Engineer,

One of our Thunderbolt Docking project is using  SN75LVPE4410 as the PCIe Redriver, and the schematci is as below:

SN75LVPE4410_PCIE_Redriver.pdf

But now we found that the PCIe device is not recognized when we connect some PCIe device for testing. Can you help analyze the cause of the problem?

Thanks,

Kind Regards

  • Hi Lumina,

    I looked at the schematic and have some comments about the signal routing and AC coupling:

    • In general, the data input/output directions (the red arrow symbols) in the schematic are confusing
      • Example: on U5, data is implied to be sent from both the RX and TX pins, which is not logical?
    • On redriver U5, the inputs to the RX pins are said to come from the PCIE_RX[#] data lines at the PCIe gold finger connector:
      • These data lines are given AC coupling right after they exit the connector, which is unusual:
        •   
        • The convention for PCIe connectors is that the AC coupling is applied on the side of the signal sender, not the signal receiver.
    • The TX outputs from U5 are said to go to the OCU_RX[#] data lines at a different connector:
      • These data lines are not given any AC coupling at all before they enter the connector, which is also unusual and against the PCIe connector convention
    • Redriver U6 has similar problems with the TX output entering the PCIe gold finger connector, there are no AC capacitors given here:

    So I would recommend the following:

    • First, verify that the data lines in the schematic are wired correctly in terms of direction and data flow
      • Any mistakes here, such as a RX line being wired to a RX line, will definitely lead to communication problems
    • After the data lines are verified or corrected, check the AC coupling of the data lines and keep in mind the connector convention I mentioned earlier.
      • All PCIe data lines must be AC coupled exactly one time
        • Missing AC capacitors can result in severe SI problems that prevent the signal receiver from understanding the signal - I have just seen this recently on another customer's project
        • Applying AC coupling two times can also result in SI problems by changing the line capacitance from the expected 0.22 uF value.

    Best,

    Evan Su