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Hi,
Please see link https://www.ti.com/product/AM26C31. We are looking for a differential line driver for 20MHz clock signal and want to use this AM26C31.However it showed max signaling rate is 10MHz in this link. But there is no rate information in AM26C31 datasheet. could you please confirm if it can use for 20MHz driver? many thanks.
Jenny
Hi Jenny,
This device is RS-422 which traditionally doesn't support > 10Mbps ; that is where I think the 10Mbps signal comes from.
However the datasheet doesn't say because the max speed is generally derived from the rise/fall time of the differential driver as well as the propagation delays of transmitter and receiver.
This device has a max differential transition time of 10ns; we want the bit to be at its max value for at least 1/3rd of the bit time - so using the max transition time spec we get a max data rate of:
Max_data_rate ~ 1/(3*max differential transition time); which in this case is 1/30ns = 33.3Mbps
Now you also need to consider the propagation times of transmitter (which is most 12ns) and the receiver (I am not sure what receiver you are using - but that could impact max speed) - since you need 20Mbps that means the total propagation delay from receiver and transmitter need to be < 50ns - the transmitter you are looking at only contributes 12ns.
I will also like to note that under heavier capacitive loading and/or longer bus lengths in the system your max data rate will suffer. However Running this device at 20Mbps is most likely possible depending on chosen receiver and system parameters - but we really don't actually guarantee a max data rate - but realistically for this device is would be > 10Mbps.
Also as a general rule of thumb - datasheet values are worth more than what we publish on the product pages - the product pages don't have the same level of review over them as a datasheet - so there can be mistakes or even specs listed on product page that aren't in datasheet - they are mostly accurate - but always fall back to datasheet for certainty.
Please let me know if you have any other questions!
Best,
Parker Dodson
Hi Parker,
Many thanks for your valuable reply.
I have another question, if you can give us suggestions it would be really appreciated.
I compared SN65LBC174A and AM26C31, Both looks ok (SN65LBC174A is slightly better) on propagation delay and data rate. however 174A is 10 times more expensive than 26C31. It would be grateful if you could give some suggestions -- which one is suitable to us (it is quite noisy environment: this circuit is close to high current/voltage component outside PCB).
-- SN65LBC175A receiver was chosen in our platform.
-- cable capacitive is around 15pF, trace capacitive is tbd (main PCB -- around 300mm, daughter board is 150mm).
-- 20MHz clock required. worst case is 21MHz.
Many thanks.
Jenny
Hi Jenny,
I apologize - but it seems I misunderstood the original ask - a lot of designers use Hz in place of bps - but it seems you are actually using 1Hz = 2bps (which is generally considered the correct way - but both are used) - the reason I bring this is up is because both of the devices listed could hit 20Mbps / 21Mbps - but they are not going to be able to hit 40Mbps/42Mbps which is equivalent to 20MHz/21MHz - you are looking at around 30Mbps or 15MHz on these devices.
With that being said - those are really our fastest quad channel devices - we really don't have faster devices in quad channel. We do have devices that can meet the required speed - but it would require single channel devices like the THVD1550 or THVD1450 which can meet 50Mbps (25MHz) speeds - but that is the fastest we really offer in RS-485/RS-422 type solutions. The receiver you have chosen should work at those speeds though - but the driver is usually the speed limiter in the system not the receiver.
Best,
Parker Dodson