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SN74HC573A-Q1: applying vil max or vih min at all input at once

Part Number: SN74HC573A-Q1

Hi everybody,

We can see in datasheet that at VCC=6V, vil max=1.8 and vih min=4.2?

Does it mean working with all inputs @ either vil max or vih min is allowed?

We can see Texas documents  as  SZZA036B telling about vil that:

"The nondata inputs (e.g., direction, clear, enable, and preset) may be considered unused inputs and may not be at threshold conditions."

So all inputs @ either vil max or vih min is  not allowed?

Or we can see  another  Texas documents  scda011 about the  nocive excess current consumption when  input level are at vil max or vih min.

So I imagine it is not recommended to work at this vil max and vih min level on all input pins at once.

So my question is: according to datasheet about vil max and vih min, is it allowable to apply these level on all input at once or not?

Thank you for those who have time to think about and answer Slight smile

  • That sentence just says that data and nondata inputs behave the same.

    All inputs must be below VIL(max) or above VIH(min).

  • Thank you for your Clemens.

    Which sentence do you refer to?

    If you mean ""The nondata inputs (e.g., direction, clear, enable, and preset) may be considered unused inputs and may not be at threshold conditions."" 

    I understand  only control inputs must be below or above threshold, (by deduction according to datasheet, data input can be at threshold vil max and vih min don't you think?)

  • That sentence is not very clear. Calling out nondata inputs does not make sense, and the term "threshold condition" is not defined. Just ignore it.

    All inputs, whether data or control, whether used or unused, must have a valid voltage, i.e., ≤ VIL(max) or ≥ VIH(min).

  • Hello Clemens, thank you again for your help. 

    I understand what ou mean but i 'm not totally convinced as you.

    A) The threshold values is kown as the level input to a logic gate that determine whether a particular input is interpreted as a logic 0 or a logic 1.

    2 theshold are defined, vil max and vh min

    B) for you non data input does not make sense but it is defined as  "the nondata inputs (e.g., direction, clear, enable, and preset) "

    C) my question is "according to datasheet about vil max and vih min, is it allowable to apply these level on all input at once or not?"

    It would be very interesting if a Texas Instruments tech support could answer.

  • Hi Yohann,

    Clemens is correct. There is no real distinction. All inputs ("data" or "nondata", does not matter) register a logic high and a logic low. If you are not below Vil max or above Vih min for any more than the maximum input transition time, you risk damaging the device with the amount of current that goes through both CMOS fets.

    So no, to answer your original question, I wouldn't recommend holding all input values at exactly the Vil max or Vih minimum voltages. As long as you stay within datasheet specifications you should be fine (i.e., once again,  ≤ VIL(max) or ≥ VIH(min))

    Best,

    Malcolm

  • Hi Malcom,

    Thank you for your answer.

    You wrote " I wouldn't recommend holding all input values at exactly the Vil max or Vih minimum voltages"

     It is an answer to my question and thank you again.

    Could you please give me the official document in which this rule is recommended? 

    Best regards,

    Yohann

  • There is no official document. But if you are holding voltages at exactly the max or min you risk violating either threshold if your voltages are noisy or there is some other problem with your design that affects those voltage levels.

    Best,

    Malcolm

  • Hello Malcom,

    Very interesting answer thank you. It solves my issue. Thanks to Clemens and Malcom having taken time to help me in understand.

    Best regards

    Yohann