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LM5175: VCC, BIAS consumption (from external regulator)

Part Number: LM5175
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM5176, CSD19502Q5B

Dear Support, my design has this spec. : Vin=10-32V, Vout=24V, Iout=20A (based on LM5175 or LM5176). My target is to reduce LM517x power loss so I prefer to use Optional input to the VCC bias regulator (powering VCC from an external regulator). In LM5175 datasheet, Ivcc is 65mA minimum. In old E2E forum post (“LM5176: LM5176, how much bias current of internal regulator can handle?”) I read “…the current limit for BIAS is the same for the VCC regulator.  Hence, your design should also observe 65mA as the guaranteed current…”

VCC regulator supplies the drivers; NMOS DRIVERS have current capability to “Driver peak source current” 1,8 ampere. I use 8 FETs (CSD19502Q5B, Qg Gate Charge Total, typ 48nC max 62nC) in output H-Bridge. Fsw=500KHz. So Driver Consumption can be estimated as 4 x Qg x Fsw that is about 125mA (max).

So I consider 65mA+125mA = 190mA (with 4 FETs powered out of 8) to dimension external regulator. This means design external regulator with this spec. : Vin=24V, Vout=10V, Iout=190mA.

I forgot other consumptions? In my design, which is maximum current that can be drawn from external regulator for power BIAS pin (IVcc)?

  • Hi Mauprs,

    Thanks for using the e2e forum and already doing some research on our device.

    Your calculations look valid to me.
    We do not have a maximum current requirement from the BIAS pin.

    To validate this design, I would recommend to make a measurement with an LM5175 board an measure the current going into the BIAS pin.
    This way the specs for the external BIAS supply can be chosen in more details.

    Best regards,
    Niklas