TLV755P: [TLV75518P] [TPS74601] Power up slew rate check for 3.3V input and 1.8V output

Part Number: TLV755P
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: AM6411, , TPS746

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Hi,

AM6411 is using TLV75518P and TPS74601. The design requirement is to check the slew rate less than 18mV/us.

And we could only see 3.3V power up waveform in the datasheet.

Thus, we want to check with BU for the 1.8V output slew rate of both of TLV75518P and TPS74601, please advise.

Additional question is, may I increase output capacitance to reduce startup slew rate?

Thanks and Best regards,

Tiger

P.S: 

- TLV755P startup slew rate= 11mV/uS

- TPS74601 startup slew rate= 11mV/uS (or 11.8mV/uS if the raising time is 280uS)

  • Hi Tiger,

    Let us know if you want different LDO options with soft start control to better control the turn on ramp rates.

    I expect the slew rate will be the same for the 1.8V option.  Based on these waveforms we can estimate the following is happening inside the LDO:

    1. There is a voltage reference internal to the LDO which (relatively speaking) turns on nearly instantaneously, like a step function
    2. The output of the reference flows into an RC low pass filter
    3. During turn on, the R of the low pass filter is disconnected and a fast charge current source charges up C
      1. This gives the linear ramp during turn on
    4. After the fast charge is complete (usually around 97% of Vout steady state) the fast charge current source is removed and the R is placed back into the circuit
      1. This gives you the slower roll off to steady state

    The feedback resistors set Vout but I do not expect the ramp rates to change.  Thus, for 1.8V output I would expect the same ramp rates as you can see in those waveforms.  The typical methods to slowing down the turn on are using an LDO with an NR/SS pin, SS pin, or placing a Cff across the top setpoint resistor.  None of these options are available to you with these fixed LDO's. 

    The only remaining method to slowing down the turn on is increasing Cout to trip current limit during startup.  Keep in mind that as a rule of thumb, current limit protection typically requires 20-50us to engage, so for the initial 20-50us the original ramp rate will still take effect.  Per the datasheets, typical current limit for the TLV755P is 720mA and for the TPS746 it is 1.44A.  Use I = C*dV/dt, with dV = 0.97*1.8V = 1.746V and dt = 300us.  I = the typical current limit values.  Then:

    TLV755P: Cout > 124uF

    TLV746: Cout > 248uF

    Thanks,

    Stephen