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LM3495EVAL: lm3495 eval

Part Number: LM3495EVAL
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Hello

I made a set up with the  LM3495 EVALUATION BORAD

i took a new evaluation board and try to limit the current at 1A so i use as Rilim=500mOHM, that work perfectly

-Now i want to have an output votage of  3.7V with 12V as a Vin,

 i changed the Rfb2 = 51.3kOhm with the current limitation at 1A with a load of 2 Ohm, i don't have the limitation at 1A i got 2.24A

I don't understand how the Rfb2 modification can impact the current limitation.

best regards,

Adjagbe

 

  • Adjagbe,

    The current limit is low side valley detect.  The average (load) current is the valley current plus one half ILp-p.  ILp-p = (Vout/Vin)*(Vin-Vout)/ (Fsw*Lout), so the maximum load current at current limit will vary with Vout, and any of the other variables such as Vin, Fsw or Lout.

  • Hello John

    Thank you for your answer.

    I calculate the ILP with Vout = 3.8V and Vin =12V Fsw = 5,5E5Hz and Lout = 1E-6 and i got as result 5.19E-12 for ILP.

    The average (load) current is the valley current plus one half ILp-p  , I don't understand what you mean in this part.

     

    I want to limit my current at 8A and i use the Rilim formula to determine de Rilim that i need for 8A limitation

    i have Rdson= 2.5E-3.

     i got as Rilim = 1.36E-2

     

    What do you think ??

    Thank you for your help.

  • Adjagbe,

    I calculate 4.72 A for your peak to peak inductor current.  Since the LM3495 senses the current limit at the low point of the inductor ripple current, you add back one half of the peak to peak current to get the average current.  For a better understanding see my blog here:

    e2e.ti.com/.../understanding-valley-current-limit

  • Hello John,

    i realize that with any resistance i put on Rilim there is no limitation of current.

    I choose Vout = 4V  with a Vin = 12V and for the current limitation i want to 6A so i choose for Rilim = 1.06K but i realize that the current increase more than 8A

    so i decided to put a Rilim = 500 ohm  it is the same.

    do you have any idea of what can be the problem?

    Best Regards,

    Adjagbe

  • Adjagbe,

    I need your inductor value and switching frequency to calculate it with Vin = 12 V and Vout = 4 V.

  • hello John

    Fsw = 5,5E5Hz and Lout = 1E-6

    best regards

  • Adjagbe,

    I also need the low side FET RDSon.  The calculated p-p inductor current is 4.85 A.

  • John,

    the rdson value that i use for my calculation are 3.4 mOhm

    i took this value from the datasheet of the low side FET whuch reference is HAT2165H

    Best regards,

    Adjagbe

  • Adjagbe,

    500 ohm should result in a valley detect point of 2.94 A and a dc load current limit of 5.37 A.

  • John,

    i had the same result as you for tes resistance value but in my test i didn't see any limitation of current.

    i checked on my oscilloscope the value of my current it was around 8A i don't know why.

    i don't understand why the limitation i'm suppose to have i don't have it.

    it is possible to have some new eval board to make another test maybe the eval board i'am using it's damage.

    thank you for your help,

    Best regards,

    Adjagbe

  • Adjagbe,

    I have ordered a board to check.  I will close this thread for now and re-open it after I receive the board.

  • Hello John,

    Hope you are doing good.

    I have just reconsidered my design and read thoroughly the datasheet and your blog about valley current detection and I think I got it wrong from the start, the datasheet has me confused especially this part for page 22:

    CURRENT LIMIT

    For this design, the trip point for the current limit circuitry should be below the peak current rating of the output inductor, which is 18A. To account for the tolerance of the internal current source, the change in the RDSON of the low-side FET, and to prevent excessive heating of the inductor, a target of 15A has been chosen. A 3.8A margin exists between the expected 11.2A peak current and the current limit threshold to allow for line and load transients. Following the equation from the Applications Information section the value used for RLIM should be 3.32 kΩ 1%.

    In this part, the explanation goes as if we should take the maximum current (average output current + half of peak to peak current) as current limit. This is true when the controller operating in “peak current detection”.

    Since the LM3495 performs Valley current detection, the current limit should be set at: Average output Current minus half of peak to peak Current. Am I right?

    I have done some calculations (see attached file) and performing tests and it seems to corroborate. Can you take a look and see if my assumptions are wrong and misleading?

    Thank you.

    Buck Considerations LM3495.xlsx

  • Adjagbe,

    The purpose of that verbiage is to keep the peek current below the inductor current rating to avoid saturating the inductor.  For your case, you calculate the valley current limit at 7.12 A typical.  the calculated p-p inductor current is 1.8 A typical.  So the maximum load current is 7.12 + ILp-p/2 = 8.12 A and the peak inductor current is 7.12 + ILp-p = 8.92 A typical.