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Antenna's azimuth beam

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: IWR1443, IWR1642

Hi ,

in the link below, it shows the azimuth gain of each RX1, RX2, RX3, RX4, TX1, and TX2.

https://e2e.ti.com/support/sensors/f/1023/p/665207/2458295#2458295

to calculate the link budget, which gain antenna receive/transmit I can use ? individual  or as an array ?

Thanks

Regards

muhyin

  • 7382.AWR1642_AWR1443_antennas_simulation2.pdfHello,

    In the mmwave BOOST EVM User Guide, the per element antenna directivity gain is listed.   Each Rx and Tx element has a per unit gain.

    I have attached the simulation from the patch antenna designer.  

    The IWR1443 has 3Tx, 4Rx.  The IWR1642 has 2Tx and 4Rx.

    Regards,

    Joe Quintal

  • Hi Joe,

    I have simulated the antennas, and I can get per element antenna directivity gain similar to the ones you shared.

    However, my question is related to radar equation/link budget and radar FOV (field-of-View).  how to calculate the max range distance due to path loss, since you need gain TX and gain RX.

    if the modulation scheme is BPM, Tx1 and TX2, transmit the power at the same time, would that be forming an array ? please see below my simulation of TX1+TX2 and RX1+RX2+RX3+RX4 as an array in azimuth plane.

    should I use array gain of TX1 and TX2, instead of gain of per element antenna ?

    Thanks

    Regards

    Muhyin

     TX1+TX2

     RX1+RX2+RX3+RX4

  • LevSen_RCS2_LinkBudgetCalc2_30mconfig2.xlsxHello,

    in BPM MIMO swra554a, app note, the Transmitter power is higher.  In the TDM MIMO it is the single Tx power.    If you want to forward the simulation file, I can ask a system engineer more questions.    If your simulation has the effective transmit power for BPM, you can use that.

    In our use of the radar equation, active Tx transmit integrated time, chirp profile, we enter a system loss(2 db typical), and board losses (2db typical).  We don't have a path loss term, we calculate for a given RCS, and Integrated-Tx time, we get the max range.

    Please see the provided spreadsheet.  

    Regards,

    Joe Quintal

  • Mmwave_webinar_Dec2017.pdfHi Joe,

    could you please elaborate more on no path loss ? the signal will propagate through air, and i think should get some path loss. in attached TI document, page 15, it is shown there is.

    when i select the rx number 4, the gain is increased. is this at bore sight 0 degree azimuth ? what is the gain, if the signal coming from angle 30,45 or 60 deg ? 

    Thanks and looking forward for your response

    Regards

    Muhyin

  • Hello,
    In my use case for the spreadsheet for Level Gauge (Sensing) we use a single Tx and single Rx with a Waveguide coupler.
    In your case, you can indicate 4 receivers, and in TDM MIMO one Tx, and in BPM MIMO two Tx.
    The calculation is at bore sight, you would need to combine the radiation pattern in the xWR1642 or xWR1443 BOOST User Guide to get the off axis gain, as that would be different depending on the angle.

    The 2xair loss would be in the system loss in the spreadsheet, or you can add a another component loss.

    Regards,
    Joe Quintal
  • Hi Joe,

    Could you please share the information of combine radiation pattern ?

    especially at +-30 deg. as in our simulation. it indicates low gain, due to null on array 4 antenna RX .

    Thank you very much.

    Regards

    Muhyin

  • Hello,

    Normally we are limited to 2 simulateneous Tx, for BPM or TDM MIMO.   These use the 4 Rx antennas.  I do not have antenna pattern measurements for this case.

    I will ask the other application engineers.

    Regards,

    Joe Quintal