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INA208: RESET pin LOW level range

Part Number: INA208
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: AMC7836

Hi Dear expert,

I have a question on INA208 CMP1 RESET pin low level voltage range. in datasheet, it writes RESET threshold typical 1.1V. How can we understand this spec? What is the low level range?

During debug, my customer found if the low level starts from 640mV to 6V, the reset is working; while if RESET starts from 840mV to 6V, the reset doesn't work.

Seems there if reset is higher than one level, the RESET is not working.

in Customer application, the CMP1 RESET pin has connected to capacitor. See below snapshot:

 

Thanks a lot for your reply in advance.

Joyce

  • Hello Joyce,

    1.1V would be the typical upper bound for the CMP 1 Reset Pin.  If a voltage at this pin is above this voltage value, comparator 1 will most likely remain latched when the comparator threshold voltage is crossed.  The figure below illustrates this idea.

    One thing I noticed with your schematic, is your customer appears to be using he 10 pin package.  I suspect they confused CMP1 RESET with CMP2 Delay, which can be found on the the 14 pin package.  Comparator 2 functions a bit differently than comparator 1 such that it does not latch and its delay can be changed through an external cap, which appears to be what you have on the reset pin.  For your reset pin, your customer probably should have some sort of switch in the form of a transistor or microcontroller GPIO that is able to pull that pin high or low.  CMP1 RESET has an internal pull-down that would naturally pull it to ground if it were left open.  However, your customer has a pull-up resistor which forms a voltage divider with this internal resistor.  So I would expect that once VCC is applied, the Reset pin will always see (6V-0.7V)*(2Mohms/(2Mohms +4.53kohmms)= 5.29V.  The capacitor on this pin would only remove transients coming from the VCC line.

     

  •  Hi Patrick,

    Thanks very much for your reply. So 1.1V is typical value for reset high voltage. so what is the range of high voltage for RESET pin?

    for eg, >800mV will be treated high, <400mV will treated low. Do we have this data?

    Thanks a lot for your reply,

    Joyce

  • Hi Patrick,

    See below datasheet from AMC7836 datasheet, this is GPIO pin high and low level definition. 

    For high level signal, it will list min value; for low level signal, it will list max value. 

    We want to know this data for RESET pin. thanks a lot!

    Joyce

  • Hello Joyce,

    For this part we do not specify a min or a max.  We provide a typical value (1.1V) above which the internal comparator typically triggers.  However, I will try to dig up some information from our characterization team on the minimum and maximum values they observed when testing batches of these parts.

  • Hello Joyce,

    This is one of our older parts and I did find that characterization team observed this part over a RESET range of 0.8V to 1.4V. However, the range your client may observe with their parts could be different. We can only guarantee that the typical value will be 1.1V.
  • Hi Patrick,
    thanks very much for your reply. It helps!

    Joyce