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[FAQ] AM625 / AM623 / AM625SIP / AM625-Q1 / AM62P Custom board hardware design – OLDI (Open LVDS Display Interface) capabilities

Kallikuppa Sreenivasa
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Other Parts Discussed in Thread: AM62P, AM625

Hi TI Experts,

I have the below queries regarding the OLDI interface

  1. Supported display configurations. Query regarding 8-lane, 4-lane and electrical compatibility.
  2. Is there a recommended part number that TI has tested?

Let me know your thoughts.

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    TI__Guru**** 158559 points

    Hi Board designers, 

    Refer below inputs for the OLDI interface related queries.

    Supported display configurations.

    Does AM62xx support 4 lane or 8 lane or both 4/8 lane type of LCD displays.

    The AM62x OLDI support 1 X 8 lane (dual link mode) and 2 X 4 lane (single link, mirror mode)

     

    Query regarding 8-lane configuration.

    The LCD datasheet has segregated even and odd pairs on the data and clock lines. We would like to know if there are any recommendations for interfacing this type of LCD AM62xx

    In dual mode LCD configuration A0 through A3 correspond to the ODD pixels and A4 through A7 correspond to the even pairs. 

    Query regarding 4-lane configuration. 

    Is it possible to use 2 LVDS displays using 4-lanes for display-1 and another 4-lanes for display-2?

    It is possible to connect two displays and use the OLDI in single link mode. However, due to HW limitations, both the displays will be mirrored.

     If two displays, we used at the same time can I play two different videos are not?

    The videos will be duplicated. (Same video on both displays)

     

    Query related to electrical compatibility with the selected display.

    How to confirm the OLDI interface is compatible with the selected display?

    The OLDI LVDS electrical characteristics are summarized in the below table of the processor datasheet for comparison with the selected display.  

    7.8.7 OLDI LVDS (OLDI) Electrical Characteristics

     Help me understand the default data mapping of oLDI  VESA or JEIDA

    Refer below TRM section 

    12.9.1.4 DSS Functional Description
    12.9.1.4.1 DISPC Functional Description
    12.9.1.4.1.1 DISPC Overview

    Measurement of OLDI voltage and termination 

    Terminating and measuring OLDI waveform 

    (+) AM625: OLDI voltage swing and rise/fall time - Processors forum - Processors - TI E2E support forums

    https://e2e.ti.com/support/processors-group/processors/f/processors-forum/1273263/am625-oldi-voltage-swing-and-rise-fall-time/4836261?tisearch=e2e-sitesearch&keymatch=OLDI%20100#4836261

    https://e2e.ti.com/support/processors-group/processors/f/processors-forum/1329009/am625-oldi-interface-impedance

    These are the configurations for slow and fast mode

    (1) Slow mode: TXDRV[3:0] = 0100b without back termination (RTERM_EN = 0b with 100Ω differential termination on far-end only)
    (2) Fast mode: TXDRV[3:0] = 1000b with back termination (RTERM_EN = 1b with 100Ω differential termination on far-end only, or

    This is the case where internal back termination is off and external termination on the board is placed.
    RTERM_EN = 0b with 100Ω differential termination on near-end and far-end) 

    The far end termination may be inside or outside  and that depends on the attach device.

    How to disable OLDITX0 output if only using OLDITX1?

    OLDITX0 is the primary node, when only 4 channels are required OLDI0 should be used
    OLDITX0 and OLDITX1 can be enabled in clone mode. Same data will be available/transmitted on both the channels
    Also i understand that there is no hardware support to disable OLDITX0 and send data only on OLDITX1

    Do the differential signal pins (oLDI, USB, etc.) have the capabilities to adjust the swing of the voltage?

    No

    Recommended configuration when OLDI0 is not used 

    Refer to the Pin Connectivity table of the device specific data sheet.

    I would like to confirm that the bit ordering data[0 - 23] can modify depend on input VP format. Is it right?

    You could use CSC to change color component ordering, but otherwise, it is fixed. 

    I'd like you to tell more detail of CSC.AM62P has several CSCs in DSS (VID, VIDL1, VP1, VP2). Which can be used for this use case?

    Do you mean we can use CPR?

    CPR module in the Video port can be used to interchange the color position. 

    I got CPR module can be used to rotate color position.

    Could you please let me know that there are any requirements for configuration procedure of CPR?

    Its just 3x3 matrix, and can be configured at any point.

     

    AM625 display system capabilities

    Display subsystem
    – Dual display support
    – 1920x1080 @ 60fps for each display
    – 1x 2048x1080 + 1x 1280x720
    – Up to 165 MHz pixel clock support with
    Independent PLL for each display

    What do these numbers mean? For which display?

    On AM62x, we have two displays that could be driven independently. Both displays have independent PLLs and the independent PLLs allows users to connect two 1080p displays simultaneously with no restriction on FPS (VSYNC=60 Hz).

    The only impact to the system would be bandwidth. On AM62x, we only have 16bit DDR and if GPU or CPU were performing complex operations, they will not have enough bandwidth to get 60 FPS. The performance would vary based on the workload. Given the DDR limitations, we recommend customers to connect a 1920x1080 and 1280x720 screen for dual display to allow GPU and/or CPU to have bandwidth for their respective workload. 

    Resolution 2048x1080 for which display? LVDS in dual-channel mode? In the datasheet, it is mentioned 1x 2048x1080 + 1x 1280x720 resolution. Why?

    Both interfaces support upto 165MHz and it's up to the customer to chose the interface. In general, LVDS supports higher resolution panels like (1920x1200 or 2048x1080 or 1280x720) and DPI supports lower resolution panels.

    Recommended/ tested OLDI display 

    OLDI LCD with Capacitive Touch for AM62x Starter Kit EVM

    https://www.ti.com/tool/SK-LCD1

    https://e2e.ti.com/support/processors-group/processors/f/processors-forum/1257150/sk-am62a-lp-lvds-support-for-am62a-evk-and-am62x-evk

    References

    High-Speed Layout Guidelines for Reducing EMI for LVDS SerDes Designs

    https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/snla302

    AN-1108 Channel-Link PCB and Interconnect Design-In Guidelines (Rev. A)

    https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/snla008

    Display interface and functioning related threads for reference.

    https://www.forlinx.net/company-news/video-demo-of-ok6254-sbc-425.html

    (24) AM625: Interfacing LCD to AM625x - Processors forum - Processors - TI E2E support forums

    (24) SK-AM62: Recommended LCD panel for J21 - Processors forum - Processors - TI E2E support forums

    (25) AM625: DSS (Display Subsystem) of AM62x - Processors forum - Processors - TI E2E support forums

    (29) AM625: AM625 display system capabilities - Processors forum - Processors - TI E2E support forums

    Regards,

    Sreenivasa