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LM339: Question about voltage spike on output pin when input reference voltage raising up

Part Number: LM339
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TLV9022-Q1, LM393LV, TLV7021

Hi Expert,

Sorry to bother you, I'm using LM339 to detect the voltage of the circuit as shown below,

I was found there is a voltage spike on the output pin as shown in the waveform below. Could you please explain why there is a spike on the output pin and how can I fix this problem? 

Thanks

April

  • Hi Expert,

    Uploaded the missing picture as shown below.

    Thanks

    April

  • Hi April,

    during power-up (rise of 3V3_SB from 0V to 3.3V) for a brief period the supply voltage of LM339 is below the minimum supply voltage necessary for normal operation. During this time interval the output voltage of LM339 cannot be predicted.

    Kai 

  • Hello April,

    As Kai mentioned, many things are happening at power-up.

    A scope photo showing both of the inputs, the output and the power supply will help clarify the issue. As well as zooming in on the "glitch" to see the shape and timing.

    The supply ramp-rate and the other input (COMP_VIN_2p5) behavior is needed to find the root cause.

    If this is just a sequencing issue, try removing the three 0.1uF capacitors on the COMP_VREF line, as these caps do add a bit of a lag to the reference voltage when coming up.

    We do have some comparators that have an internal power-on reset, which can help with these start-up glitches, such as the TLV7021 family, TLV9022-Q1 & LM393LV. These require that the supply voltage cross minimum supply and about 20-30us delay from then to prevent glitches. Unfortunately, we do not have any in Quad right now, just dual and singles.

  • April

    we have not seen any additional input on this thread, so it will be closed.  If you need further assistance, please reply or open a new thread.

    Thanks

    Chuck