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SN65DPHY440SS: placed close to AP or LCD screen?

Part Number: SN65DPHY440SS
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DPHY440SSRHREVM

Hi,

my customer would like to use this device as MIPI buffer to drive LCD screen.

1. Is it okay to drive LCD screen with this device? They typical application is only for camera.

2. Should this device be placed close to AP or LCD screen? I guess AP.

3. What's the longest cable we can support with this device?

  • SN65DPHY440SS can be used in either a MIPI CSI-2 or MIPI DSI application at datarates of up to 1.5 Gbps. Which interface and data rate does LCD screen support?

    The placement of SN65DPHY440 and the cable length depends on the max supported data rate and insertion loss of the cable. SN65DPHY440 has a 5dB RX equalizer and 2.5dB TX pre-emphasis. Please refer to section 8 of SN65DPHY440 for more detail on the design.

    Thanks

    David

  • Hi,

    now the customer would like to prolong the camera cable to CPU to about 580mm.

    The camera is CSI-2 interface, the clock maximum is 114MHz, data rate maximum is 430MHz.

    Is it possible that we achieve such length?

    How to configure this device to achieve such long length?

  • Assuming 0.11dB/in insertion loss, 580mm trace length is around ~2.5dB, well within the DPHY440 RX EQ compensation range. 

    Beside the insertion loss, please make sure the setup and hold requirements are met.

    Thanks

    David

  • David,

    thanks.

    My understanding of RX equalizer and TX pre-emphasis is:

    RX equalizer is used to enhance the received signal, thus if we place the device close to the SINK(receive side), we should configure RX equalizer to enhance the received degraded signal.

    TX pre-emphasis is used to enhance the transmitted signal, thus if we place the device close to the source(transmit side), we should configure TX pre-emphasis.

    Is my understanding correct? 

    If yes, then how do we choose to use RX equalizer or TX pre-emphasis? They seem to achieve the same purpose.

  • Both TX Pre-emphasis and RX equalization work together to compensate for the high-frequency channel loss. But the approach to the compensation is different. Pre-emphasis inverts, shifts, and shrinks the adjacent symbols to boost the bit transition. Linear equalizer amplifies the gain in certain frequency ranges.

    While both pre-emphasis and equalization compensate for the high-frequency channel loss, both have their advantage and disadvantage. 

    Since equalization amplifies the gain in a certain frequency range, if the noise introduced in the channel is in the optimal frequency range of the equalization, the noise component gets boosted and negatively impacts the correct sampling of the data stream and clock data recovery.

    Pre-emphasis enhances the signal by increasing the signal edge rate, and this in turn will cause increased cross-talk on the neighboring channel. 

    So the selection between RX equalization and TX pre-emphasis is system dependent. Each system needs to be evaluated to maximize the advantage of pre-emphasis and equalization. Typically this evaluation is done through channel response simulation.

    Thanks

    David

  • David,

    thanks.

    Is channel response simulation the software below?

    SN65DPHY440SS S-Parameter Model.

    Besides,

    is it possible that you send me the PCB file of DPHY440SSRHREVM?

  • SN65DPHY440SS S-parameter model is just a model, you still need a simulator such as Agilent ADS to run the simulation.

    I sent you the board file in a direct email, please check.

    Thanks

    David