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MSP430FR2533: Countermeasures against water drops and metal effects on Captivate

Part Number: MSP430FR2533
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TIDM-1021

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Hi All,

I have a question about measures to prevent the effects of water droplets and metals on Captivate.

I understand that approaching water droplets, metals, and wood chips can result in false detections on touch switches.
Please teach the design methods and measures to minimize false functioning like this.

Our product had a problem where a metal zipper on clothing came into contact with the touch switch, resulting in incorrect functioning.

We plan to collect similar cases and implement countermeasures in the future.
Please provide examples of instances where objects touching the touch switch caused a false functioning.

Best Regards,

Ito

  • Hi Ito,

    Unfortunately, anything that touches the sensor that is capacitivley coupled to ground or ground potential, will be detected as a touch.  The methods to prevent this, as much as possible, is to have proper sensor PCB design and set the touch sensor thresholds properly.  This information is located in the Captivate Technology Design guide.

    For example, a person touching a capacitive sensor changes the sensor's capacitance because the person is coupled to ground and is detected as a touch.

    A small amount of water touching a capacitive sensor by itself may not change the sensor's capacitance, but if the amount of water is large enough to couple to any nearby ground potential on the PCB, like ground plane, the sensor's capacitance changes and it will be detected as a touch.

    If a metal object at ground potential touches a sensor, the sensor's capacitance changes and will be detected as a touch.

    You can see in these three cases, any conductive object can be troublesome, and from the perspective of Captivate, they all look a touch.

    From your description, it sounds like a person is wearing some clothing with a zipper, correct?  And when that person positioned their body such that the zipper came in contact with the sensor (switch), a touch was detected, correct?  The zipper couples to the body and the body to ground so the zipper looks just like a finger.

    To Captivate, it only measures a change in capacitance, and based on the amount of change and the touch threshold it will determine it to be a touch.  In this case there isn't any design method that would prevent this. However, if the difference between finger touch and zipper touch measured conversion counts is large enough, raising the conversion count touch threshold higher than the zipper touch can help.  When the zipper touches, the change is below the touch threshold and not detected.

    For water specific designs, see TIDM-1021 application note.

    Does this help, or do you need more specific information?

  • Hi Lehman,

    I have understood how the mechanism to detect touch works.
    However, I am unable to open the link for 'Captivate Technology Design guide'.
    Could you please provide other links or documents?

    'Metal zipper touched the sensor and it was detected as a touch.'

    My customer collect these events seen in private lives.
    If you know of any similar incidents, please let me know.

    Best Regards,l

    Ito

  • Hi Ito,

    Strange the link does not work.  Try this -> https://ti.com/captivatetechguide

    If for some reason it does not work, search captivate technology guide

    I'm not familiar with this application.  I guessing this is a type of clothing (jacket or coat)? I don't know of any incidents such as this. Are there any details regarding the application or design? In this case it would be very helpful know more about this design in order for me to provide beneficial comments or suggestions. If proprietary, you can share through private message or email.

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