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TPS53622: sequencing

Part Number: TPS53622
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: CSD95496QVM, , , TPS53679

Hi Team,

As per application schematics, enable of power stage (CSD95496QVM) controlled by ASKIP# pin of TPS53622A. Is ASKIP and BSKIP pin able to control the power stages without AVR_EN & BVR_RN? Is AKSIP and BSKIP pin active functionality once 3.3V rail up?

Can you please help with your comments.

Regards, Shinu Mathew.

  • Hi Mathew,

    As per application schematics, enable of power stage (CSD95496QVM) controlled by ASKIP# pin of TPS53622A.

    In application schematics, enable of power stage is suggested to be connected to 5V VDD.

    Is ASKIP and BSKIP pin able to control the power stages without AVR_EN & BVR_RN? Is AKSIP and BSKIP pin active functionality once 3.3V rail up?

    While VREF of TPS53622A is ready, ASKIP/BSKIP will be the voltage of VREF (1.7V), then it will go high along with AVR_EN or BVR_EN is high.

     

    Thanks,

    Chasel

  • Hi Chasel,

    Thanks for the reply. We have few more queries on the device as mentioned below,

    1. Is SMBUS of TPS53622A( VR13 regulators) can connect with CPLD to monitor Telemetry reading and Other programmable configuration setting?
    2. Do we have any sample code for SW configuration and please share if available?
    3. Do we need to initialize any SW before power ON the board or default configured in factory?
    4. Do we need any Header connector for programming the TPS53622A (VR13 regulator) ?

    Regards,

    Shinu Mathew

  • Hi Mathew,

    Please get datasheet for following questions.

    1. Is SMBUS of TPS53622A( VR13 regulators) can connect with CPLD to monitor Telemetry reading and Other programmable configuration setting?

    Yes.

    2. Do we have any sample code for SW configuration and please share if available?

    Please download fusion GUI here

    http://www.ti.com/tool/FUSION_DIGITAL_POWER_DESIGNER

    Select Offline Mode - Create new Offline system from start - Select Device - TPS40xxx/TPS53xxx/… - Select TPS53622

    There is minor difference between TPS53622A and TPS53622. Tracking OVP is selectable regardless VR mode, please find datasheet for detail. You can use TPS53622 sample code without issue.

    3. Do we need to initialize any SW before power ON the board or default configured in factory?

    It depends on your design, please check the default settings in the table of datasheet, if the initial NVM settings don't match the design, you will need to pre-program TPS53622A before EN is high.

    4. Do we need any Header connector for programming the TPS53622A (VR13 regulator) ?

    You will need PMB_CLK/DAT/GND.

    Thanks,

    Chasel

  • Hi Chasel,

    Thanks for the reply.

    Few more queries, plaese help with your comments. 

    1. What is Maximum length of sense trace (AVSP /AVSN) b/w VR13 regulator and SOC.?
    2. SOC supports only VCCCPU and VCCRAM sense lines. Using two VR13 regulator to generate VCCCPU, VNN, VCCRAM and VDDQ rails.  VCCCPU and VCCRAM sense traces are connected with SOC.  What about VNN and VDDQ sense traces? Need any termination if unused? Please suggest 
    3. AVR_RDY/ BVR_RDY output pin indicates when VR13 controller is ready to accept SVID commands.  How processor know this information to proceed SVID transaction? What is function of this pin?  Shall this pin for Power Good output and connect with CPLD?
    4. SMB_CLK/ SMB_DIO/SMB_ALERT# pin names are SMBUS or I2C.  In Specification mentioned as PMBus. Could you please confirm the TPS53622A supports PMBus or SMBus? Shall we tie this interface with SMBus or I2C?

    Regards, Shinu Mathew.

  • Hi Mathew,

    What is Maximum length of sense trace (AVSP /AVSN) b/w VR13 regulator and SOC.?

    There is no limitation of VSENSE traces. Certainly, as short as possible, and couple of proven design are with 12inches length without any issue as long as the traces route in quiet area. (no switching noise and refer to GND).

    SOC supports only VCCCPU and VCCRAM sense lines. Using two VR13 regulator to generate VCCCPU, VNN, VCCRAM and VDDQ rails.  VCCCPU and VCCRAM sense traces are connected with SOC.  What about VNN and VDDQ sense traces? Need any termination if unused? Please suggest 

    You can tie the sense line to the load if there is no connection needed of CPU.

    AVR_RDY/ BVR_RDY output pin indicates when VR13 controller is ready to accept SVID commands.  How processor know this information to proceed SVID transaction? What is function of this pin?  Shall this pin for Power Good output and connect with CPLD?

    This is system related question, you can check with your customer to see how they achieve this. I cannot provide anything here as it is Intel proprietary information.

    SMB_CLK/ SMB_DIO/SMB_ALERT# pin names are SMBUS or I2C.  In Specification mentioned as PMBus. Could you please confirm the TPS53622A supports PMBus or SMBus? Shall we tie this interface with SMBus or I2C?

    SMBUS is better, but I2C is ok if engineer can translate the protocol to SMBUS/PMBUS by I2C.

    Thanks.

    Chasel

  • Chasel Chen said:

    Hi Mathew,

    As per application schematics, enable of power stage (CSD95496QVM) controlled by ASKIP# pin of TPS53622A.

    In application schematics, enable of power stage is suggested to be connected to 5V VDD.

    Is ASKIP and BSKIP pin able to control the power stages without AVR_EN & BVR_RN? Is AKSIP and BSKIP pin active functionality once 3.3V rail up?

    While VREF of TPS53622A is ready, ASKIP/BSKIP will be the voltage of VREF (1.7V), then it will go high along with AVR_EN or BVR_EN is high.

     

    Thanks,

    Chasel

  • Hi Chasel,

      Can you please provide part no of programming tool for TPS53622A and recommend mating header part number, which is to be placed in the board.?

    Regards,

    S. Asarudeen

  • Hi Sheik,

    http://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/slua888

    You can use TPS53679 programming tool for TPS53622A which is with same footprint.

    Thanks

    Chasel

  • Hi Chasel,

    Some more queries related to TPS53622A device. Please help us with solutions.

    1. Are enable pins (AVR_EN and BVR_EN) of SVID controller has an internal pull-down? Do we need an external pull-down? We are driving this pin from CPLD and during initialization of CPLD, what is the state of this enable pins?
    2. Placement for VCCP and VNN sense resistors?
    3. Why there is delay network placed for AVREN and why not for BVREN in the application schematics in the datasheet?
    4. Why there is 0 ohms Resistor placed b/w VREF and VREF_P in application schematics in the datasheet?
    5. Input Current sense signals for SVID controller is de-poped in TI reference schematics. How path will close to sense input current?

    Regards,

    S. Asarudeen

  • Hi Sheik,

    1. Are enable pins (AVR_EN and BVR_EN) of SVID controller has an internal pull-down? Do we need an external pull-down? We are driving this pin from CPLD and during initialization of CPLD, what is the state of this enable pins?

    You will need to pull AVR_EN / BVR_EN low if no use. That means keep CPLD status as low before you want to enable the power.

    1. Placement for VCCP and VNN sense resistors?

    Follow intel PDG.

    1. Why there is delay network placed for AVREN and why not for BVREN in the application schematics in the datasheet?

    It is just an example, you can decide to use it or ignore it.

    1. Why there is 0 ohms Resistor placed b/w VREF and VREF_P in application schematics in the datasheet?

    Only for debugging purpose

    1. Input Current sense signals for SVID controller is de-poped in TI reference schematics. How path will close to sense input current?

    You can use Calculated IIN instead if input current shunt is not used.

    Thanks

    Chasel

  • Hi Chasel,

      

    Thanks for your response. Please find the attachment of Denverton-TI schematics for your review. Please do the detailed review of the attached TI part design and revert back with comments.

    Regards,

    S. AsarudeenDenverton_TI Power Schematics_Review.pdf

  • Hi Sheik,

    We already got the same file from sales team, you will get the comments later.

    Thanks.

    Chasel

  • Hi Chasel,

    I am able to find Cable connector part number which is used to mate with board connector for programming.  Please confirm the below part number and also recommend mating part number (soldered in the board).

    Cable connector part no: 86479-3

    Regards,

    S. Asarudeen

  • Hi Sheik,

    There is no special requirement of this connector, just make sure it is 2.54mm pitch, but you can refer to TSW-105-07-G-D.

    Thanks

    Chasel.

  • Hi Chasel,

     Thanks for your reply.

    I found PMBus connector 5103308-1 (10 pin -2x5) which is to be soldered in PCB. Could you please confirm this part number and shall we can proceed in design?

    Regards,

    S. Asarudeen

  • Hi Sheik,

    If it is 2.54mm pitch, then it is ok.

    Thanks

    Chasel