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Dear all,
I have a designed a board integrating a Lora MCU (+ sensors) powered from a low powerLow noise/low voltage dropout LDO MCP1700-3302 with 170mV droupout voltage. My board is powered with a 1x D-size primary Cell with 500 mA current capability 3.6VDC with a Load when I use a new cell.
when the board is in sleep mode, the current leakage is 10uA @ 3.3VDC (=LDO Vout), and 89mA-110mA during TX mode.
I figured our the LDO is not working properly when VBAT <= VOut + DropOutVoltage, i.e. 3.45VDC , I see voltage drop and glitches on Vout leading to MCU resets due to internal brown-out circuit.
I was thinking to power the board directly from the Primary cell without using a DC-DC converter, but at high temperature the primary cell voltage can increase to 3.8VDC and this can damage or decrease Lifespan of some sensitive components mostly sensors (at 3.8VDC , the Voltage is in the Absolute Voltage Zone) , and using a zener-diode at 3.6VDC is not best solution for ultra-low-power application.
Currently I am hesitating between a LDO or a Buck-Boost converter adapted to 1x LiSOCL2 primary cell:
- I can use a buck-boost converter like TPS63900 but I am worried about Voltage Ripple noise +/-50mV , which can be noisy for sensors. Noise problem can be maybe solved by using ferrite Bead or electrolyte capacitors on the Vout on the voltage output .
Or using a LDO TPS7A05, your specs mention it's compatible with 1x LiSOCL2 primary cell, but I am afraid to face the same problem than the MCP1700-3302 and have unexpected behavior when VBAT <= Vout + DropOutVoltage
do you have any suggestion or solution to advice ?
Many thanks,
damon
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I was also thinking to use the TPS62840 as PWM mode can be stopped when sensor are enabled, and can solve voltage ripple noise issue. But it's a step-up, Not sure it can work properly if VBAT < Vout .
thanks, damon
Hi Damon,
Since output voltage of battery is not constant, always a big range, so, i think a buckboost converter is a best solution to extend the life of battery.
It can help battery to discharge to a lower level of input voltage.
For output ripple, Please check the Iout_high part, it is similar with your application and the ripple is about 20mV.
Regards
Tao
Dear Tao,
many thanks for your quick answer, much appreciated, I already bought an evaluation board to test it.
If the battery voltage is lower than 3VDC , the MCU and some electronics can not work properly. The UVLO threshold voltage is too low for this application ( 1.7VDC)
Can I use voltage divider on EN PIn input and switc off the TPS63900 if the battery voltage is low ?
On the specs page 5, I can see VIL MIN IS 0.4VDC and VIH MAX 1.2VDC.
between 0.4VDC and 1.2VDC I don't know what would be the TPS63900 behavior .
Thanks,
damon
Hi Damon,
Since the behavior of TPS63900 is not sure bwtween 0.4~~1.2V. Divider is not a good idea to get a precise 3V UVLO_OFF.
We need much more external components, may be 1*TLV431+1*FET(signal level)+4*0402 package for resister and capacitor, is it ok for you?
Regards
Tao
Dear Tao, good suggestion... I will have a look to this solution. Currently my design is working well with 9uA of current cons. @3.3VDC in battery saver mode, I would like to keep this ultra low power consumption. if you have a reference design please share it with me .thanks ;-)